New gun law

I dont see it as much of a "new gun law" but expanding the old one. Renewing competency every 5 years is good for the old timers that shoot alot but probably not enough for the novice people. The person that gave the CCW training should dictate how competent a person is after training.

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Competency testing needs to be the same across the board. All 50 states should be the same and recognize each other’s CCW. I find it ridiculous as an Ohio resident with Ohio Competency Training that I can’t carry my firearm in Pennsylvania. However, I also have my CCW through Virginia as a non resident and who does have reciprocity with Pennsylvania. Virginia by the way is a very lax state when it comes to obtaining a CCW through their state. All I had to do was pass an on-line course and then apply for a CCW permit. Self defense is not a state to state issue.

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Great points Baseball. I agree 100%.

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I got pulled over testerday by Ohio State Highway patrolman. Followed the rules, told him about my weapons. He took them to his car, wrote me a ticket and came back and thanked me and commented that I did everything right. He said he believed it was everyones right to defend themself. Very good deal except for the $115. I thought the speed limit was 45 it was 40.

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@ thegreek it is a ne gun law by allowing loaded clips/magazines during transportation for non CCW holders. I called MPD once to verify this and he couldn't really answer it. he said "Better be safe than sorry and don't do it"

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Wow thegreek! 5 miles over the limit and he gave you a ticket? Lol

I got pulled over recently going 9 miles over in a 35mph zone and luckily I only got a warning.

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He took your gun to his car???I dont think he is allowed to do that.

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51 mph in a 40 zone. I supposed he ran the serial numbers on them in the car. There were 2.

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Too bad that "compliance" doesn't equate with "mental-competency", which should be reviewed on a weekly basis for some overly paranoid gun-fetishists!

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I am glad that law abiding citizans can carry a gun....i was raised in the country and we always had at least 2 on hand....but the way 2 solve these problems isnt gun contr and stricker laws because bad news everyone criminals r gonna get them one way or another so strickter laws for the ones who r following them isnt going 2 b much help.....what we need 2 do is take all this money we pay 2 the government and use it 2 fund state mental words and classes for teachers to be able 2 point out troubled kids and get is ordered by schools or the state 2 have them b evaluated by doctors......all these horrible thing happening is because kids r slipping through the cracks we need more focus on mental health and less on guns because guns dont pick themselves up and drive cars people do

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Sorry about some of the spellings....typing from a cell phone isnt as easy as from a desktop or labtop

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HEY! oneill's IS still s@cking, err, I mean breathing.

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Correct Workingstiff. The trainer know who the novices are by the training he gave them. i.e. did they point a "loaded" handgun at them in handling practice where he assessed if they can be trusted with a loaded weapon? Or generally show no working knowledge of a gun. Because alot of people that get a CCW are people that have been or feel threatened by someone and it may be their last resort. You can tell those people from the ones that have handled a weapon all their lives but want a CCW for vacation trips etc. Another point I would like to make and that is we need to deal with the ADULT BULLIES in our society and the business world. The schools are just now dealing with the problem that has been around forever!!

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Oniell. Feel free to use Chicago or Wash DC or England as your shining star prototype of gun free zones. They still have major problems and everyone but your types knows it. Gangs steal guns from outside the city limits and commit more murders than you can deal with. You can live there if you want but leave me here around all these crazy, lunatic, hillbilly, concealed weapons owners as you label them. I bet I could sleep at night and wake up in the morning. Unlike Chicago !!

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Workingstiff, if you know of people who are selling CCW training, and not requiring them to complete the standards, report them!

The 88 sheriff's departments of Ohio are running short-staffed in this economy, and many actually take the full 90 days to issue a permit. And you think they need to have to administer a test themselves of applicants?

I advise anyone who has completed the basic course to qualify for a CCW to take as much training as they can. Every instructor I know offers advanced courses for conceal carry permit holders.

I don't see any changes in this law that places the public in any danger, I ask if anyone has a legitimate issue, to offer it up.

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oneill - My arsena's fine! I am running low on Liberal-based lube cream though. Care to bumble out in front of a bus for us?

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@Stickhauler - I kinda AGREE with your last comment about what is and what isn't proper training ... The Greek mentions those who "feel they are being threatened" - I think that the proper term for this is "paranoia"! If databases can be created for molesters, DUI offenders, and even for marketing purposes, databases can be created to include paranoid wingnuts who fantasize about overthrowing the government, and/or think that they're Bruce Willis in the "Die Hard" movies (of course, McClain was an off-duty cop, wasn't he?) ... One thing that separates the rightwing whack-jobs from whack-jobs like Holmes or Lanza is that the rightwing anti-tax, anti-Obama, anti-liberal wingnuts yap a lot & bully others in public forums, and that makes them easier to "profile"! Now, some of you will pop in here to prove my preceeding point. "Please procede!"

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BTW - "Two hours" of training is NOT compliance - it's neglegence and "aiding and abetting" a possible homicide or suicide! While I'll agree that there are many responsible gun-handlers, there are also many (too many) who regard WMDs as "toys"! Irresponsible drivers are taken off the road. Take irresponsible gun-owners (i.e. the late Nancy Lanza who legally owned weapons and went to the gun-range, BUT allowed theese weapons to be used by her homicidal son) out of public places!

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Yeah Greek, all the "homicidal" folks (usually black or Hispanic) are in them thar big cities! Have you checked out local headlines lately? Note the gun-happy idiot in Lawrence Township - there are many more whar he****frum!

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... Hmm! Let me try an experiment ... Did you know that "expert" lawman and "prince of the pistoleers" James Butler a.k.a. "Wild Bill" Hic**** reacted too quickly in Abeline and accidentally killed his own deputy?

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Yep! The censors, not us commentors, shore seem to have their minds in the gutter!

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Can we say "BANG"? Lol!

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Ok Oneill, by "feeling threatened" I am speaking of a spouse that has a partner that likes to beat on them and threatens to kill them. OK you made me say it. I am not talking about paranoid people that think everyone is looking at them funny like you would want every one to think I am speaking about. You really need to go visit some shelters. You have EVE pretty close. Why dont you get off the computer and go over there for a visit and maybe you wont be so sheltered in your cornered thinking anymore.

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I would like to see you up against a gang in Chicago for a few hours some night Oniell. What would you do? Start talking about how great gun control is with them?

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@Greek - And what I am saying is that there are many paranoid persons out there who hate government (any government) and love guns ... Of course battered women need to be protected, but having a gun in the house usually results in the more physically-powerful person (i.e. male) killing his wife or girlfriend with it ... I've been in some "bad" areas of NYC, Chicago, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and in Mexican towns like Nuevo-Laredo, Merida, Cancun, and Mexico City and felt safer than I would feel in some hillbilly bars ... Can we agree that there are many violent places in the world with violent people in them, but how does the proliferation of even more guns help matters? It simply creates armed-camps and wide-open cowtowns! ... Also FYI - Where have I advocated repealing the Second Amendment or prohibiting ALL guns ... Check out the wording of the 2008 SCOTUS "Heller vs. District of Columbia" ruling - while majority Justices decided that D.C. overstepped it's bound

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