Marietta school security

Oniell. Your lips are moving but I can't hear what you are saying. Maybe you could come up with some plausible actions that would alleviate this problem instead of the Peirs Morgan balh blah blah blah!! It is WORTHLESS...

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@oneill - your comment, " so-called NRA "training" for teachers involves a $150 up-front fee. For that, one gets TWO hours of "training" - mostly "target-practice". AS a certified NRA instructor, I can tell you that the training is a minimum of 10 hours, which includes lessons on the use of deadly force. Believe me, as a CCW holder, the last thing I want to do is discharge my firearm. Frankly, I don't want to go to court to justify my actions, and leave the outcome in the hands of someone who may be opposed the the use of firearms under any circumstances.

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foolish NRA fearmongering and do what is necessary to make our kids and others safe in public-places!

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School buildings need to be made more secure & safe from unwanted intruders. I have no problem with hiring professional law-enforcement officers to serve as school guards. More surveilance-cameras. Put a monitor in the guard-station and post pictures of known gun-nuts and those (including students) who have bullied or issued (on or off-line) threats. Create a universal database of persons who accumulate stockpiles of high-powered weapons ... If cigarettes can be regulated, so can guns! No gun ads in venues used by folks under-21! Limits on age and mental-stability for purchase of "X-rated" violent movies and games ... Above all, more education about REAL gun-issues, and less stupid paranoia claiming some "dire plot" to "repeal the Second Amendment" ... If one is a law-abiding, sane citizen one has no reason to fear rules about guns or security in public places any more than one needs to fear laws regarding cigarette-smoking or drunk-driving. Stop the

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track of the activities of such individuals and to make it a felony - punishable with several years in prison - for any of these nutjobs to come within 500 feet of ANY school or public-building ... Yet we have morons in the Statehouse who think it's okay for guns to be brought into state parking-garages, college campuses, school-buildings, government offices, and (of course) bars, restaurants, and hospitals! Kick these doofuses out in 2014!

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This article is about school-security, NOT about NRA "talking poinrs" nor about how "cool" it is to own certain types of guns ... Let's try to stay on topic. We have noted the success that "Mothers Against Drunk-drivers" has had in limiting DUY instances. We read daily about databases of known-predators and how they are not allowed anywhere near schools and playgrounds ... So how about keeping a database - not necessarily of all gun-owners - but of persons who have purchased MANY weapons at flea-markets, gun-shows, dealers, and include ANYONE on that database who has been involved in criminal activity, who is known to suffer from mental-illness, or who goes on the Internet and advocates stockpiling weapons, hates kids or teachers, or who has expressed publicly (in forums like these) overthrowing the government, or how much they believe that all problems in society could be "solved" with guns ... We are technologically-advanced enough to keep tra

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clips and magazines, limit guns in public-places, and try harder to keep the body count to ZERO!

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@Stick - Again you demonstrate how uninformed you are about these shootings (but, of course like to brag about your "expertise" with these "cool" weapons) ... Holmes threw two tear-gas grenades into the theater auditorium before he commenced shooting ... @Ask - I read your posts & agree with some, but not with others - i.e. taking a two-hour target-shooting course from some NRA huckster is NOT "training" for the unexpected ... Also, while laws exist requiring competency, background checks, etc., they are obviously NOT being adequately enforced - 1. Holmes got some of his stuff from dealers who should have investigated him more thoroughly; 2. he got his ammo off the Internet; 3. Nancy Lanza legally owned guns, but allowed her nutjob kid to be around weapons; 4. how does a handgun stop a fully-armed and armored shooter with high-tach weaponry? You say that it's okay if a couple of kids are hit by "stray fire". I say restrict high-capacity cli

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Fred, you say you're a pretty good shot, but in a "smoke-filled room" like that theater in Aurora, you don't think you'd have been able to see your target? Where do they still allow smoking in theaters? Not Colorado! You can't even smoke in restaurants in most states in the US! Or bars!

There's a case of a school shooter down South, I believe Mississippi, where the Principal was a concealed carry permit holder. He complied with the law, and his firearm was locked in his car, parked outside of the "gun free zone" of the school property.

He heard shooting start, and ran, retreived his pistol, ran back and subdued the shooter, preventing more injuries.

These people doing the shootings are cowards, when faced with someone willing to fight back, they either take their own life, or surrender. Look at Aurora, when police arrived, that loon put down his rifle and surrendered. When the Newtown shoter heard police arrive, he killed himself. IF one person had refused to b

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Fred read my posts advocating further training, back ground checks and psych evaluations for those to carry, or just be lazy and not read the comment board or do the research to have a valid point.

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no fred I can't,but can you guarantee all mass murderers will miss their target? you can't obviously. Kind of a dumb point!

So say 2 stray bullets hit kids, but saved 24 others, is that ok? Whats your point?

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This "let's put everything else on the table but guns" stance is both redundant and counterproductive to solving the problem-at-hand. Mental health and violent-entertainment are part of the equation, but easliy procured high-capacity guns are the main ingredient!

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@Ask - Spraying gunfire is NOT "okay" in either instance ... Can YOU guarantee that all conceal/carry folks are combat-ready and would not cause "collateral-damage"?

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Fred, I get your sentiment, but do you not think a trained shooter even with his bullets flying as well, could've ended either of these nightmares? Why is it ok to you for these people to be able to spray gun fire over kids and innocents, but its no ok for gun fire to return on them??? Face it, there is zero viable option to remove these guns from the streets, so why remove them from sane trained law abiding citizens?

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@Advocate - Wallowing in a morass of paranoia about being safe in public places is not how I want to spend my life. Nor do I have any desire to return to those "good ole wild west days" when everyone packed a "Peacemaker" ... If I lived in Syria or Mexico, I might tote a gun, but America can evolve beyond that, but to do so, gun-fetishists might have to learn to live without some of their toys!

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Fred, you are 100% wrong! You know why your statement is technically true, because it wasn't a mass murder when it was stopped. An off duty female cop shot and killed a guy on this rampage last week. google it. a guy made the mall shooter run and hide by pulling his gun. google it. They just don't have the ratings a massacre has, while, if you soend 10 minutes researching it, CC is a great thing. And the stats prove it.

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Look a well placed hand cannon round might have stopped this act, but in reality how many times would have this young man fired his weapon until the response of "hey, I hear shooting got to get my 6 shooter from my purse or jacket in the closet, make sure my students dont follow me, find and then stop or deter the shooter, one life lost is too many, but would this line of thinking stopped all of the murders by this young man who was intent on firing first and*****the consequences, respectfully no It would not have.

By the way I used to carry thousands of dollars to buy commodities and never thought much about being a victim. But of course, My big thing was being aware of my surroundings and how I comported myself, carry your weapon, but be careful around innocent children, Saturday`s events prove we are human beings, and accidents happen!!!!

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@Asknot - I'm actually a pretty good shot, but I'm not sure if, in a smoke-filled room (like in that theater in Aurora) or under constant fire, I could hit the bad guy and not injure or kill an innocent party ... Cops even flunk those virtual-combat exercises where bystanders pop up between the bad guys ... I DO agree with you that some of the $$$ wasted on overseas wars and the failed "war on drugs" might be better spent making our own nation more secure ... Perpaps the best devices for perimeter security are surveilance-cameras and alarm-systems ... Note that an efficient public-address system is what prevented even more deaths at Sandy Hook Elementary School ...

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@Ask - Even an offduty officer is a highly trained law-enforcement responder. In the 66 mass-killings that have taken place since Columbine, NO mass-shooter has been stopped by an armed amateur - except in the movies or in the plotlines of some video-games ... I guess I'll have to trust that all those gun-toting folks I run into in Marietta will not shoot me or bystanders - of course, if they tried, that wouldn't prevent me from trying to stop them with a well-aimed chair - but then I probably watch too many movies myself ... I still think that keeping a database of gun-owners (including types of weapons, ammo, training, mental-state, criminal record, etc.) might lessen the chance of certain types of shootings happening in the future ... I'd rather see universal profiling than more dead kids!

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Fred and scrappile, chances are I or on of my my friends are around you alot of the day when you are in public, and you have ZERO thought that a guy standing next to you has 3 loaded weapond on him. Usually 2, but sometimes 3, and you have zero clue, as the children would have zero clue, until Adam Lanza may have had a bullet thru his brain that would've saved 26 lives.

I think you all would be shocked at how many loaded weapons are near you ready to fire at a moments notice, yet somehow don't. Trust me you'll welcome that thought someday.

Ya wanna know whats weird, an off duty officer stopped a major killing spree a few weeks ago by shooting the guy. Gonna be another mass murder, but it was prevented. Why isn't that in the news?

I hate saying this, but ya'll have researched this, and you all are sheep. Getting guns out of AMericans hands, lol, good luck, go play the lottery, the odds are better;)

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Fred, I'll repost again, since you seem to fail to consider a reasonably solution! priorities bro

Afghanistan war $100 billion a year War in drugs $39 billion a year Foreign aid $49 billion

The cost to provide a police officer for every school $5 billion!

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Fred, did you take that class???? And in 2 hours with a good instructor, you can learn some great shooting tips, like shooting up avoid collateral damage. And please share with us how a gun ban will remove guns from the criminals. I dare you to come up with a viable plan.

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Or we could fence the schools in with armed guards, and even a watch tower or 2. Get some of these kids used to their future. I mean really, guns around elemenary schools. "Guess that`s somethin you wont understand."

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Wow, lets put this in perspective, most threaders on this site think teachers rate less respect than those that put a Big Mac in a sack, but now their reaction is to put more guns around five year olds and let the educators carry weapons, which these innocent minds, have mostly no idea what the dangers of guns can inflict. These acts of violence have benn going on for years in inner cities, with not much being said or done. Now that is in the face of those with a voice and political capitol, something must be done now.

Tell you what, give it 6 months and 3 request to the state rep. for funds to pay for these armed guards and we will see what the reaction is then.

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O'Neil... About your library situation. If you continue to offer yourself up as a soft target, then whackjobs will fully expoit you. Personally, I am done being a victim. I attempt to avoid all businesses & buildings that are soft targets. On that vein, I guess I have embraced the world of e banking & shopping. I choose not to do business with those that promote these opportunists. For instance, I have several family members that are into the craft thing. I refuse to spend money at JoAnn Fabric because they post a placard. I spend my money in P'burg or at the Walmart because of their stance. I am certain that there are some in town that will do go there for that very reason. Their business to be caught in a soft target, but not mine.

We will have to agree to disagree. To me everything is simple & easily solvable. Too often we get lost in minutiae & the simple solution....

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