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Law enforcement deals with ammo shortage

January 22, 2013

When the Washington County Sheriff’s Office goes to order ammunition this year, a long wait is expected before the order arrives, said Washington County Sheriff Larry Mincks....

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NasCarNut

Feb-07-13 8:28 AM

Nugent said, "If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year."

Hmmm, thought he was just on TV the other day?? POS...

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NasCarNut

Feb-07-13 8:22 AM

In September 2009, Nugent embarked on a hunt near Somerset, El Dorado County, California. He was accompanied by a guide and a cameraman, filming for his Outdoor Channel show "Spirit of the Wild.". . California Fish and Game wardens who watched the broadcast noticed that it showed Nugent killing a very young buck which had been attracted by commercial bait. Both the killing of such a young deer and the use of bait are crimes under California state law. On August 13, 2010, he pled no contest in Yuba County to two misdemeanors: illegally baiting a deer, and failing to have a deer tag signed by a government official after a kill. He was fined USD $1,750 by the court and was banned from hunting in California until June 2012. In April 2012 Nugent signed a plea bargaining agreement to plead guilty to two misdemeanors for illegally taking a bear after shooting one earlier at a bait station. He will be fined $10,000, banned from hunting in Alaska and on Federal land.

Real responsib

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NasCarNut

Feb-07-13 8:11 AM

A little background on good role Ted...

He has had two wives and has eight children, including three out of wedlock in two liaisons almost 30 years apart. In the late 1960s, prior to his first marriage, Nugent fathered a boy, Ted (Mann) and a girl, whom he gave up for adoption in infancy. In 2005 Nugent was involved in a legal battle for not paying enough child support for a child he had out of wedlock in 1995.

In 1978, Nugent began a relationship with seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa. Due to the age difference they could not marry so Nugent joined Massa's parents in signing documents to make himself her legal guardian.

He's a POS...

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NasCarNut

Feb-05-13 8:36 AM

However, these incidents are not as isolated as they may appear. An NBC News survey of crime dockets and news reports across all 50 states reveals that, since Jan. 1, there have been at least 48 incidents in which guns have been discovered on students, in their bags or in their lockers.

There were at least five last Thursday alone: in Atlanta; Augusta, Kan.; Chicago; Raleigh, N.C.; and Winston-Salem, N.C.

The survey excluded incidents in which pupils were caught with toy guns; all of the weapons were handguns, rifles, BB guns or air rifles.)

So much for these parents being Responsible Gun Owners

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NasCarNut

Feb-05-13 8:33 AM

Across the country, children are being suspended or arrested for having weapons on campus or buses on a daily basis. Police in Henrico, Va., were waiting at school for the little boy Monday morning after he allegedly threatened another pupil on their ride to Ratcliffe Elementary School. They found a handgun in his backpack, NBC station WWBT of Richmond, Va. reported.

The incident made national headlines Monday, as did a similar incident when a loaded gun was found in a pupil's book bag last month at P.S. 215 in Queens, N.Y.

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NasCarNut

Feb-03-13 8:07 PM

Gangs run gun pipeline from Delta to Chicago...

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stickhauler

Feb-03-13 7:37 PM

Well clearly, IF I had access to the trace data that law enforcement has about the guns recovered in Chicago, I'd be able to tell you EXACTLY where they came from.

Yes, a good bit of guns criminals get are the result of "straw purchases." They get family members, or friends they know have zero criminal records to buy their guns. And, that shows how effective a universal background check would be. They already, under state law in California, require background checks for any gun that is transferred. They also still have the same amount of crimes involving guns.

Bottom line, if all you're going to do is insult anyone who disagrees with you, perhaps Art needs to issue you a "time out!"

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stickhauler

Feb-03-13 3:41 PM

Freddie, the reports on the source county in Illinois weren't broken down enough to say whether the guns in Chicago were sourced in Southern counties. I doubt the folks from Southern Illinois venture to the "Windy City" too much. And the gangs in Chicago aren't venturing to Southern counties to buy guns.

I resent even the claim that I'm posting stuff that would paint me as paranoid, because I don't do it. I'm not afraid of anything, I own firearms for sport shooting and home/self defense. And if you're suggesting that people just like me arm ourselves for those purposes are paranoid, that's hardly the case. We're prepared!

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stickhauler

Feb-03-13 1:11 AM

Actually, the majority of guns recovered from the gang thugs in Chicago came from gun shops in Illinois. A state where it's required to have a "firearms ownership ID" card to purchase a gun. So, the gun in question was likely a stolen gun.

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stickhauler

Feb-02-13 1:31 AM

Seems a rather pointless gesture to answer your "which one" question, Freddie. You already claimed I was a vigilante, yet you claim you don't insult gun owners here.

I'm well aware of what Scalia wrote. Yes, he said there could be restrictions on certain types of weapons, those are already restricted. He also said what I noted.

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NasCarNut

Feb-01-13 3:26 PM

Seeing an increase in crime, and brutal murders by Herb Mullin, a mental hospital patient, the state legislature passed a law that would stop Reagan from closing even more state-funded mental health hospitals. But Reagan would not be outdone. In 1980, congress proposed new legislation (PL 96-398) called the community mental health systems act (crafted by Ted Kennedy), but the program was killed by newly-elected President Ronald Reagan. This action ended the federal community mental health centers (see timeline on this link) program and its funding.

In closing, the next time you pass by a homeless person in downtown San Francisco screaming to themselves at the top of their lungs, remember Reagan. And if your kids need to go out and get jobs at age 9 to pay down the national debt, be sure to tell them that they can thank Ronald Reagan, and now President Bush, for their misfortune.

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NasCarNut

Feb-01-13 3:25 PM

wonder that California seems to have all of the crazy homeless people? State mental hospitals were taken away by Governor Reagan in the seventies, and federal mental health programs were later taken away by President Reagan in the eighties.

When Ronald Reagan was governor of California he systematically began closing down mental hospitals, later as president he would cut aid for federally-funded community mental health programs. It is not a coincidence that the homeless populations in the state of California grew in the seventies and eighties. The people were put out on the street when mental hospitals started to close all over the state.

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NasCarNut

Feb-01-13 3:20 PM

That was the thinking of the Republicans at the time, they didn't care about all the crime that was a very foreseeable result just the money that would be saved in turning them out on the streets. During Reagan term as Governor of California he approved a budget that defunded many of the state's mental institutions. Those patients were dismissed from those facilities and many of them were homeless.

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NasCarNut

Feb-01-13 3:14 PM

Early 1980's: Seeking to cut federal expenditures, the Reagan administration directed the Social Security Administration to pare the SSI and SSDI rolls. Social Security administrators responded by developing definitions of mental illness that diverged from those used in the past and those employed by mental health professionals. The resulting dislocations ultimately produced a public outcry that compelled the administration and Social Security to back down. 1981: The 1981 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act repealed the provisions of the National Mental Health Systems Act, cut federal mental health and substance abuse allocations by twenty-five percent, and converted them to block grants disbursed with few strings attached. New York State, which used block-grant monies to fund community-based programs, and other states had to cut mental health programs.

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NasCarNut

Feb-01-13 2:59 PM

Jon Thompson, spokesman for the Republican Governors Association, said many budget-cutting governors are having second thoughts, including whether to reform mental health policies "to further invest in the safety of their citizens."

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NasCarNut

Feb-01-13 2:51 PM

Dozens of states have slashed spending on mental health care over the last four years, driven by the recession's toll on revenue and, in some cases, a new zeal to shrink government. The reversal is especially jarring in statehouses dominated by conservative Republicans, who aggressively cut welfare programs but now find themselves caught in a crosscurrent of pressures involving gun control, public safety and health care for millions of disadvantaged Americans. As a result, nine state-run psychiatric hospitals were closed and another 3,200 beds for mental health patients were eliminated, dramatically reducing treatment options for the poor and people in the criminal-justice system. Thousands of patients were turned onto the streets.

Making matters worse, the cuts came as unemployment was rising, causing more people to lose private insurance and forcing them to shift to public assistance.

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stickhauler

Feb-01-13 2:22 PM

So, requiring me to go pay extra money to a gun dealer to run background checks on a person I've known for years, and know they're allowed to own guns, will make society safer? BS!

You say they haven't set standards on mental health since back in the 1980's? Crazy is crazy, the standards didn't change! We just no longer, courtesy of the liberals, have a system of mental institutions these days to deal with mentally ill people.

Gun bans, mag capacity limits, background checks, NONE of those idiotic ideas stop crazy people from killing!

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stickhauler

Feb-01-13 2:16 PM

Funny, polls I've heard from different polling agencies that asked 1,000 NRA members their views on the issue had a much different result. And, given the number of lies I've seen and heard the media (and YOU) tell of the NRA, sorry, but your (and their) claims lack credibility.

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NasCarNut

Feb-01-13 12:01 PM

74% of NRA members and 87% of non-NRA gun owners believe all gun buyers should get a criminal background check. A CBS/New York Times poll released on January 17 found 93% of those living in households with gun owners and 85% in households with NRA members support background checks.

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NasCarNut

Feb-01-13 11:29 AM

The bottom line is that it's been almost 45 years since federal legislators defined mental health disqualifications for gun buyers in the Gun Control Act of 1968. It's time to see what else we can do to save lives. Providing law enforcement and mental health professionals with more tools won't stop every shooting, but -- combined with a policy of universal background checks on ALL gun sales -- could certainly lead to a future where grotesque acts of gun violence are not a daily feature of American life.

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stickhauler

Feb-01-13 3:09 AM

Cont: There are even laws prohibiting legal gun owners who live with prohibited persons (criminals/mentally ill) from having firearms in the common home they share. Let's enforce those laws!

Your side is decrying the violence, even adding the record firearm deaths in Chicago to the pile to push the issue. Last year's firearm deaths in Chicago made it more dangerous to live there than in the combat zones of Afghanistan. Yet, on the other hand, New York City, a city 6 times the size of Chicago had way less firearm deaths.

The big difference? New York City Police do "stop and frisk" of young men of gang age in certain neighborhoods. To the tune of around 800,000 "stop and frisk's" in 2012, getting around 820 guns off the streets.

So, let's fix the gang problem, drug problem, and put the insane in treatment facilities where they won't endanger society. Until then, I don't want to hear the BS about gun bans!

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stickhauler

Feb-01-13 2:59 AM

Freddie, since the, as you so crudely put it, "anti-tax insurgents" had left before Washington and his militia even got to the scene, how exactly did he "put down" the rebellion? Al Capone was jailed for income tax evasion, not smuggling liquor. Clearly that wasn't a real serious crime, as the Kennedy family got their fortune doing exactly the same thing. But then again, Joe Kennedy had married into the Boston Political Machine of "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald. Funny you don't find Democrats who broke the law in as much contempt as you do Capone.

I've not claimed either crime was a "hoax", nor would I. I just don't see how passing laws that will make 1/3rd of America into criminals fixes the problem of crazy people going on killing sprees.

There are laws on the books prohibiting criminals and the mentally ill from owning firearms. There are even laws prohibiting legal gun owners who live with criminals or mentally ill people from having firearms in

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stickhauler

Feb-01-13 2:46 AM

Nascarnut, the NRA hasn't advocated that everyone should be able to have any gun they want. As a long-time NRA member, I'd bet I have a lot better idea of what they have advocated, and what they haven't. IF it was as you claim, they'd be trying to overturn the NFA act. They haven't.

You're also trying to claim Adam Lanza's mother had firearms for self-protection. I have yet to see any news report that states that. She was a sport shooter, she enjoyed going to the range. She also was reportedly trying to get him institutionalized as her health was failing. You on the anti-gun side claiming she bore guilt for this madman's crimes sicken me.

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stickhauler

Feb-01-13 2:35 AM

Freddie, you might have made that statement in your letter, you've derided every gun owner in these forums as (insert insult here) for as long as I've been on here. You're supposed to have been a history teacher, did you actually research how the founders felt about guns in the hands of the people? Did you ever bother to read any publications by history professors who had researched their views?

Have you bothered to listen to reports of the crazy dude in Alabama? What I've heard certainly alluded to the fact he's been a "known" local nut! Why hadn't the authorities done something?

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Harleyrider

Feb-01-13 12:12 AM

oneill, we are all still waiting on your admission to WMD's. I see you have ignored this for quite sometime. Either walk back your claims or say that Iraq was full of WMD's. What's it gonna be?

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