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Guns in church

Ohio law is clear; It’s a local decision

February 11, 2013

Arkansas is poised to join a majority of other states, including Ohio, that allow concealed handguns in churches and other houses of worship....

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morningperson

Feb-11-13 6:05 AM

Just another reason not to go to church.

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turbulance

Feb-11-13 6:32 AM

You don't think shootings could happen at church ? Hopefully they never do but they already have. We can pray they don't. But you never know when God could use a little help.

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Roscoe

Feb-11-13 6:40 AM

It has happened before, (and they have been stopped before).

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mattelliott

Feb-11-13 7:07 AM

Gun free signs posted on the front door of any building, merely serve as a safe heaven for killers. When signs are present, they are assured in advance they will have at least 5-10 minutes of undeterred shooting before cops arrive.

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asears75

Feb-11-13 7:09 AM

great move!! legal CHL carriers should be welcomed anywhere!

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mattelliott

Feb-11-13 7:27 AM

Imagine how many anti gun worshipers a shooter could send to the promise land before cops could respond. These murderers aren't totally stupid, they always prey on the defenseless.

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NasCarNut

Feb-11-13 9:12 AM

There's an article on MSN today titled--91 gun deaths in 3 days..."Death takes no holiday: Tracking gun violence over one long January weekend"

good read...

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MakinMulah

Feb-11-13 9:15 AM

If you allow a gun in church you are dumb.

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MakinMulah

Feb-11-13 9:17 AM

Gun laws have been in place for years. These new terms are just restrictions...

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ReasonableVoice

Feb-11-13 9:53 AM

Must have been a slow day for news.

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bobcatfan

Feb-11-13 10:15 AM

I would not worship in a church that won't respect my rights. My church not only allows CC weapons but I have been thanked numerous times for carrying mine regularly. Lots of ignorance in this article.

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bobcatfan

Feb-11-13 10:16 AM

I would not worship in a church that won't respect my rights. My church not only allows CC weapons but I have been thanked numerous times for carrying mine regularly. Lots of ignorance in this article.

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AngelBearOH

Feb-11-13 12:07 PM

When I look at all the commenters and all the people who agree with them, I see a lot of people who need to read Psalm 91, where God speaks of His ability and willingness to protect His children. What father would do less?

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DevilsAdvocate

Feb-11-13 12:44 PM

To all of you sign lovers...

Thank you for posting that you do not approve of licensed individuals in your sanctuary. I will be certain to note that, so when I decide to go on a rampage, your place will be first. Also, thank you for telling me that your dearest worshippers are still welcome so long as they leave their $300-$800 dollar weapon in their car. Do you think that you can get them to put a "I follow the sign" sticker on the car window? It will make the break in that much easier.

Are you all that numb to the realities of life around us? Good Lord there are some seriously deficient common sense folks out here. Are you all that naive? Or just flat out dumb when discussing this matter coherently? Conviction will not save you when someone he.ll bent on terror shows up at your church, or child's school.

Just sheep to the slaughter with your types of mentality

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DevilsAdvocate

Feb-11-13 12:48 PM

Did no one notice the after effects of those liberal news editor/owners up in the NY area? Yeah, the bastion of its our right to know published names and addresses of legally obtained gun owners. Well, some folk's homes were broken into as a result, but also some of the "I'll stick my head in the sand" folks were victimized as well, b/c the bad guy doesn't follow the law!!!!

Bad guys will not steal or create chaos where they know their chance of success is greatly challenged by a weapon's holder. It so Darwin! Why can't you folks see it, embrace it, & join???

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bobcatfan

Feb-11-13 12:54 PM

@asknot - I'm good friends with several of the pastors at my church and we've discussed the fact that I carry and several others do. They were all in agreement that it's good that there are those in the congregation that have a weapon. Obviously, no one outside our discussion would know that I am armed.

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mcemtb

Feb-11-13 1:33 PM

We are a very small rural congregation 15 miles from town. One Sunday 2 men came into our church service. One stepped completely inside while the other waited in the vestibule. No one said a word. They just looked around and left. Perhaps they were stopping in for service and realized it was about over OR they were looking for some victims and decided we looked too poor to rob. Whatever the case, since then I have carried my revolver to church every Sunday. I have a permit to carry concealed and have had one for several years. I will continue to renew it as needed. I REFUSE to be a victim of anyone who wishes harm to me or my family. That includes the elderly members in our congregation. It would take the sheriff department way too long to get there to be of any help. At least IF the situation arrives, the intruders can be held until law enforcement arrives.

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BeRight

Feb-11-13 5:47 PM

"And it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations,"

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BeRight

Feb-11-13 5:50 PM

God Chevrolet Apple Pie and USA.

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BeRight

Feb-11-13 5:59 PM

Amen to that.

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scrappile

Feb-11-13 8:18 PM

Thank you Lord for not demanding a human being to be part of an organized religion for their soul to be saved. My tenets would not allow me to carry any weapon into your house, temple or mosque of worship.

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stickhauler

Feb-11-13 10:27 PM

My church has the required signs posted. As a law abiding citizen, I follow the law and respect the wishes of our pastor. I fail to see why Arkansas has to pass a law "allowing" concealed carry into churches, unless their CCW law was flawed with a "no guns" in churches law. I'd say Ohio has the more reasonable approach, they leave that decision to the individual church.

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thegreek

Feb-12-13 1:19 AM

Come on oneill. You gotta quit skipping your meds like that.

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stickhauler

Feb-12-13 2:32 AM

Freddie, why all the hate? What did Ted Nugent ever do to you? He's extreme, granted, but so are many on the anti-gun side. Ms. Feinstein also has her own concealed carry permit, should she be "strip searched" as well? Lord, would I ever hate to be that police officer!

And why should it amaze you that I'd attend church? Better yet, why would you admit you'd doubt that I would attend church? You've claimed to know so much of my background, if you truely did, you'd know I was raised to be a good Catholic. You really need to calm down a little, you're much too old to be getting so upset at people who don't agree completely with your point of view!

I find it rather insulting that you classify anyone who has gone through the many requirements to get a CCW as a danger to society. Sure, I know a lot of everyday folks who carry for self defense, they range from common workers to executives of companies, even a few members of the clergy.

I've never advocated that everyone shoul

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stickhauler

Feb-12-13 2:41 AM

Cont: I've never advocated that everyone should own guns, nor have I claimed that everyone who does should get a concealed carry permit and carry for self defense. That's a personal choice! And in today's society, with the number of people looking to sue at the drop of a hat, choosing to carry for self defense opens one up to all sorts of liability. But frankly, I'm not seeing all the doom and gloom the anti-gun side claims there would be if regular folks legally carry firearms.

You railed on about restaurant carry, that there would be blood flowing from any place that allowed concealed carry. That hasn't happened! I feel that proves my belief that regular folks that have CCW's obviously are a lot more responsibile than you'd care to give them credit for!

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