The State of the Union address

Irisheyes, since he was re elected, he technically preceded HIMSELF !!!!Haaa haaa - Got you...

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An excellent speech, by a far superior president than the fool who proceeded him

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Trotter’s story about McKinley is very true—she failed to mention that the young mother shot and killed the intruder with a Remington 870 Express Shotgun—a gun that would not be banned under the proposed assault weapons statute. McKinley made it clear that she was not in favor of any gun control. But she said of assault rifles that she “personally has no use for one and doesn’t own one.” She also supports background checks on gun sales.

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So nascarnut, when you get done defaming her charachter, are you going to comment on the topic of her speech which was that guns equalize the balance of power between smaller women and big men that are thugs? As far as the State of the union speech, it is the same - talk, travel, sell, complain about congress, talk some more, travel, sell, complain, travel, sell.

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I find it interesting that folks like "reasonable" who say they didn't listen to the SOTU address, suddenly pop-up on these sites as "experts" ... @ASk - It's possible that you "stopped reading" long before you or I posted anything on these sites! FOX Noise has that effect on some people!

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I missed the State of the Union Address - intentionally - and I largely skim over articles that reference it.

I figure it went a little like this (paraphrasing, of course):

"I promise to do everything that I promised to do the last time I was elected."

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Now that the Pentagon has given the go-ahead on allowing women in combat zones, Gayle Trotter can give up the Susie Homemaker act and live out her Rambette fantasies for real. But, I sense she is cut from the same chickenhawk chickensh!t fabric as the rest of her peers and would sh!t her panties ala Nugent instead of enlisting :-)

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Like Trotter, the Independent Women's Forum has recently shown interest in gun rights. Before the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, the last time the group had published multiple items on gun rights was 2000, when gun advocate John Lott's book More Guns, Less Crime was referenced on its website.

I believe single mothers with children in the home and a gun around are far more likely to attend the funeral of their child following an accident while playing with the gun than following a home invasion, but that's just me...

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Her presence at the Senate hearing appears to be tied to her status at the Independent Women's Forum, a nonprofit public policy group. But the forum doesn't specialize in firearms issues. Its stated mission is "to expand the conservative Her presence at the Senate hearing appears to be tied to her status at the Independent Women's Forum, a nonprofit public policy group. But the forum doesn't specialize in firearms issues. Its stated mission is "to expand the conservative coalition" by making conservative ideas more attractive to women and by "increasing the number of women who understand and value the benefits of limited government, personal liberty, and free markets." coalition" by making conservative ideas more attractive to women and by "increasing the number of women who understand and value the benefits of limited government, personal liberty, and free markets."

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It doesn't sum anything up, Trotter is out recruiting women or at least trying to...

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Guns are a relatively new interest, at least publicly, for Trotter. A tax attorney by trade, she appears to have published her first op-ed about gun control in September. In it, she urged voters to "cling to your guns."

Trotter also maintains a personal blog, ****gayletrotter****, in which she addresses faith and values. The blog, which has been operating since 2010, contains only one post about gun rights, published about a week before Wednesday's hearing.

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search this. It sums it all up. Women protecting themselves with weapons. Gayle Trotter, a lawyer, gun rights activist, and senior fellow at the conservative Independent Women’s Forum, gave her passionate testimony last week at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on gun violence.

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Fred, I stopped reading after your first response! Obviously you are unable to hear an opinion other than your own, much like most politicians! Good day sir

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search this on youtube

OBAMA supporters HATE his POLICIES when told they are Romney PROMISES

hilarious but sad.

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What unelected nutjob Grover Norquist is to the prevention of reasonable tax reform in this country, unelected nutjob Wayne LaPierre is to the prevention of reasonable gun-law-reform that would stop hoods and crazy mass-murderes from easily obtaining guns and ammo, yet protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners. As I may have said before, you don't ban stoplights because some criminals choose to run them!

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@Ask - Back to your question "... so what makes you think they can do more?" As far as the current crowd of NRA s u c k u p s in the House or the wishy-washy members of the Senate are concerned, my answer is "not much! BUT I do believe that government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" (thanks Abe!) can be reestablished if reasonable American voters rise up as one and kick these Ayn Rand anarchists and extremist tea-party nutjobs out on their butts and send them back to the La La Land where they came from! ... Does THAT answer your question?

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You ask why Congress has not thus far been able to secure these reforms? Ask Wayne LaPierre and other leaders of the NRA who - even despite the wishes of most NRA members - have pulled every dirty trick in their bag - i.e. targeting members of Congress and other office-holders via hate-commercials and attacks on hate-radio - to stop ANY attempt to propose new rules or enforce existing ones that would (in their profit-oriented view) inhibit in ANY way the VERY lucrative gun trade!

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There have NEVER been universal and comprehensive background checks on firearm purchases in the U.S. The Brady Bill and the 1994 Assault Weapon Ban did NOT address the so-called "gun-show loopholes" (folks selling guns at gun-shows, out of the backs of pickup trucks at flea markets, or at yard sales are NOT required to conduct background checks) or interstate gun-trafficking. For example, most of the hoods in NYC or Philly get their weapons via "straw purchasers". These third parties transport loads of weapons via the I-95 Pipeline to NYC or other northeastern cities. Yes, Chicago has stringent gun-laws, but it's easy for hoods to go to the cesspool city of Gary, Indiana to purchase weapons with no questions asked ... Even if Congress can't agree on reinstating the assault-weapon ban, they CAN secure reform by passing NATIONAL laws mandating universal and comprehensive background checks and increasing criminal penalties for interstate gun-trafficking ...

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@Ask - Here's my question for you. Do you want a government that works, passes laws that benefit the people in their daily lives, and gets things done? OR do you agree with some of the extremist wingnuts that hold forth here that government is "unnecessary", or that the entire system must be scrapped and something else (whatever these folks want THAT to be) installled in its place? ... Rubio's speech (apart from what some have called "Gulp Fiction") was interesting in that it accused the President of many things that he has not proposed. For example, Rubio said that Obama favors "big government", although the President had just finished saying that "We should make government smaller and smarter". The "president" that both Rubio and Rand Paul were attacking is NOT the real POTUS, but the fictional one dreamed up by FOX & Fiends and the whackos on rightwing radio!

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@Asknot - If you have been paying attention, you might have noticed that Congress is composed of TWO branches. One of those branches, the House of Representatives, is dominated by an extremist branch of the Republican party (a.k.a. the tea party nutjobs) who simply do not believe in government. Some of these (having overdosed on the uber-libertarian or even anarchist ideological notions of the late whack-job novelist Ayn Rand) believe (as one House member put it) "we must drown the baby")... While the OTHER branch of Congress, the Senate, is controlled by the President's party, Senators on BOTH sides are often bogged down by procedural silliness (the unConstitutional filibuster that can only be stopped by a 60 vote so-called "majority" (not the 51-49 REAL majority installed by the founders) ... As I've said before, the President DOES NOT MAKE THE LAWS! I know that most of the rightwing fanatics here think that Obama has "unlimited" powers. He doesn't!

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Fred, don't put words in my mouth, I NEVER said govt can't do anything right, I SAID they can't even make the existing laws (concerning guns) work right, they can't even get the background check system working right. SO, what makes you think they can do more?

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African-American President (while this may not be true of ALL persons on the right, it surely is with SOME who issue their daily blather here) ... As far as your criticisms about me, I will readily admit that I get a bit abrasive - but (as you may someday learn) one can't find "common-ground" with fanatics! ... One more observation on Rubio's thirsty performance. While some say it's "no big deal", others have touted Rubio as a possible POTUS. So, if HE were the President giving the annual, Constitutionally-mandated SOTU speech, would he crawl under the podium to retrive a water bottle or whatever? If the Republican NeoCons (i.e. Cheney) were smart, they would claim that Rubio was merely demonstrating the effectiveness of "water-boarding". Chuckle-redux! ... @Ask - Lighten up guy!

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@Ask - I "disagreed" with your first post, but "agreed" with your last one. I know that many of your comments are "middle-of-the-road" and that you try to defuse some of the overheated rhetoric. However, by even "mentioning" such a patently-false, sleazy, bottom-of-the-barrel, "theory" (was it derived from Stiff's favorite sleaze-source, The Drudge Reoprt, or from the Breitbart nutcases?) you played right into the hands of some of the more extreme wingnuts here who will do or say ANYTHING to plug their alleged "points" opposing ANY form of firearms restrictions! ... If your complaint is that "government can't get anything done", you might want to bone-up on how the American form of government works. CONGRESS makes the laws! THEY are obstructing the business of government, mainly (like the wingnuts here) to "prove" silly philosophical points or to demonstate their contempt for the very idea of having an Afr

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Fred, I'm ok with 75% of what they have proposed: closing the gun show loophole increasing back ground checks etc But ZERO on any more gun bans, ITS DUMB, end of story

REad up on it, the government can't even make the laws on the books right, there are hundreds of 1000's of people with documented mental illness meant to be on the banned list for purchasing a gun, yet they aren't! Why? because the government can't even get the current laws working right! What makes you think, they can take more absurdity on?

But thanks for calling me and extremist, made me laugh!

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Fred, I didn't "hype" it, just stated a "fact" that it was out there and raised some points that were worth considering. Go ahead and look it up, while wasting your time. But please don't lie about what i said.

And yes, you take things to the other extreme, you do EXACTLY what you rail against on here! Extremism without compromise, without conceding the other side may have a valid point. You are STIFFY but left. Sorry bro, you know I run pretty close to middle of the road on most things and defend you alot more than anyone else, but my friend, you're losing all credibility but drawing your line and not even rebutting valid points anymore. You just rant your talking points against theres, while I feel there's a middle ground between the two.

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It seems that I'm in good company! Harley & the Greek's simpleton counterparts at FOX Noise (Bill Hemmer) are now attacking Desaline Victor (the 102-year-old Miami woman who had to wait in line for several hours to vote) and saying that she is falsely claiming to be a "victim" ... She WAS a victim of the democracy-hating wingnuts that are represented here by the likes of Harley, the Greek & the Stiff ... BTW - I notice that Stiffy takes the "morning-shift" to issue his daily "Stiffifesto", and Harley and a couple of others do their thing just before dinner. Their "thing" consists partly of slandering me or anyone who disagrees with their anti-Obama crap, but most of it consists of them high-fiving each other or praising the Stiff's authoritarian prose - "Duh, yeah Workingstiff sure told them! Yes he did! Garsh, watta man!" ... Jesus wept!

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