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New Matamoras fracking protest draws law enforcementFebruary 19, 2013About 100 people have gathered at a “fracking” waste storage site just south of New Matamoras as part of an anti-fracking protest.... Showing 25 of 39 comments Show More Comments
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moderation
Take that crap to some other state.
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CeeJay
Look, I'm against fracking (at least around my properties), and yes, it affected a recent land/business decision accordingly, but I really dont think climbing a pole is particuarly going to solve a whole lot. Though I applaud the sentiment, all you're doing is psing off the locals. They're never going to get it, and will be stuck with the consequences (economic and otherwise) soon enough.
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meyetigers
That's what Texas may be doing - shipping it to Ohio. They don't want it and would like to let us deal with it. Does "moderation" mean take the protest to some other state or the waste to some other state?
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moderation
CJ - if you live in ohio, you are a local.
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CeeJay
moderation - considering the topic, you do have a point there. I meant the New Mat locals, but yes, for now I am a local, though, sadly, plans are underway to change that, of which fracking is begining to play a larger part.
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moderation
I am saying that this natural resource (oil/gas) will be harvested, and the waste products resulting from the extraction should be retained in the state of origin. Do a little research and discover which states have the most injection wells.We should understand that the solution is toxic.... I mean, the intended purpose of the disposal method is to keep it out of the hydro cycle. Since China is heavily invested in the extraction, why don't we ship them their share? Maybe an Alaskan/Siberian pipeline. Wouldn't that create muchos jobs?
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NasCarNut
Google "frack waste" get full story...no need to wait till wed. for the times to report...
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NasCarNut
Wow...and most think this fracking is a good thing...
Authorities allege Lupo repeatedly directed that unknown amounts of drilling mud and brine be discharged into a sewer that empties into the Mahoning River watershed. They say Lupo admitted giving such orders six times, but an employee told authorities waste was dumped into the drain at least 20 times.
The employee told the investigators that Lupo had issued a directive to say, if questioned by officials about it, that the dumping had occurred only four or six times.
Investigators following up on an anonymous tip about the illegal dumping visited Hardrock, a brine hauler, two weeks ago and found a hose running from a storage tank into a storm drain, Dettelbach said. The facility's approximately 58 storage tanks each can hold about 20,000 gallons.
If people were honest maybe it could be safe but greed always comes to the front...
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CeeJay
NasCar - you nailed it. The discharge is the new "toxic waste" (Remember all the hoopla in the 70's and 80's?) I have PERSONALLY visited Butler and Sesquehanna Counties in Pa, and have sen firsthand the devastation that ensues, even miles away, to people's properties. Family lands many generations old were reduced to brown waste areas. Hunting? Gone. Fishing? Gone. Why? Greed. From the politicians who couldnt care less down to the foremen who just want to take his money back to his home state. And while you're at it, take a look at the crime and divorce rates within one year of the drilling starting. Still not sure why, but there is a definite, repeated, connection somewhere.
I'll get off my soapbox now.
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namvet
Chicken-Hawk Dick Cheney and Haliburton say frac water is safe--Now why would anyone doubt what they say!! Looks like Athens County is going to be the dumping ground for this crap---Thanks K&H for being so considerate too the surrounding landowners and farmers!!!!!
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ambercurt
Did they get all the permits for this plant?????
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NasCarNut
In the news this week is the plan, months old but only now getting widespread media attention, to allow barges to haul toxic liquid frack waste to SE Ohio. Each barge could carry 10,000 barrels or 400,000 gallons, compared to the 80-150 barrels a truck carries.
So now we've become the dumping grounds also...the coast guard hasn't even given approval for the river to be used for hauling yet...must still be deciding on the amount of money for this to happen...yep, money speaks louder than words...
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moderation
m'tigers- I mean should not be comfortable allowing toxic waste, which it at the least,is,to be deposited into our geologic formations. And most particularly, accepting any generated in another state. So I guess my position would include more public awareness in all states, in what ever manner is the most effective.
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JoshBrown
If the the Fractal fluid is so safe why did PA & NY ban it ? So if they take it across states line it's now safe in Ohio ?
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MaryPoppins
Should have used Jennifer Garrison as the attorney. She was on the radio yesterday stating her firm will not allow waste wells.
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MaryPoppins
If frac water is safe, let me see the oilmen drink it, then I might be convinced.
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asknot
I agree, if its so safe, why is it banned, and why do companies pay to have it shipped across state lines.
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armycorp
We're all of you demonstrators at New Mat? I have never heard such ill-informed misrepresentations of the truth. What is your definition of toxic?
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JoshBrown
@armycorp Toxic = Anything that causes cancer and benzine causes cancer it's a fact not fiction and it's in fractal fluid. So if's so safe why not have one of the trucks stop by your house fill up your bath tubs and let your kids take a bath in it ?
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sunbird
Let each U.S.state keep/store their own toxic waste--to help that along Ohio citizens should propose to Gov Kasich to ban any and all infusions of oil/gas toxic waste into our state.
AND to make it better yet, let Ohio ship its toxins to China.
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sunbird
If you believe fracking waste is safe-- think again.
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moderation
I believe It is the technique involved in its' disposal that is at issue. I think that the frac fluids' toxicity is generally accepted by those on both sides of the disposal issue.
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JoshBrown
I was reading about the oil/gas companies saying that if the governor raise the taxes on oil/gas they will move to a different state to drill. I'm thinking it's going to be ruff moving 3 million acres of land to a different state to drill on them.OH/PA/NY should bleed the oil/gas companies dry !!
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NasCarNut
. What is your definition of toxic?
barium, zinc, cadmium, chromium, cobalt, copper, lead, mercury and nickel...all are commonly found in brine...
Somewhere between 20% – 40% of the water used for hydrofracking a well returns to the surface as wastewater, also known as produced water. This wastewater not only contains the toxic and hazardous chemicals used in fracking fluid but also contains contaminants that it picks up from deep within the earth, most notably heavy metals, volatile organic compounds, salty brine and radioactive materials.
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NasCarNut
Naturally occurring radioactive materials, known by the acronym NORM, are common in gas drilling waste. Radium, a potent carcinogen, is among the most dangerous of these metals because it gives off radon gas and takes 1,600 years to decay.
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