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Preschool for all

President’s proposal gets high marks, but lacks details

February 21, 2013

President Barack Obama’s call to extend preschool to all children is an idea some local officials generally agree with, but there remain numerous questions about how it would be execute....

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Feb-21-13 8:26 AM

MY goodness stiff get a grip /this is preschool not the breakup of the family as we know it. For years these silly arguments have plagued something as innocuous as preschool. give it a break, ask any teacher ,children without any preschool do not do as well as those who have it. Preschool teachers are interested in children learning simple concepts, how to behave in a classroom and to get them used to their peers,not teaching them about Joseph Stalin.

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Feb-21-13 8:43 AM

When we turn over the education of young people to "experts", we must accept the indoctrination that comes with it. The problems (violence, drugs, bullying, teen pregnancy, etc.) we see with teenagers and our young adults are a direct result of our children being educated in a system where an absolute standard of morals and ethics is illegal. If you want your kids to turn out well, homeschool them or send them to a Christian or Catholic school.

This bill would simply make it less likely that kids would go to church-sponsored pre-schools because of cost to the parent. How about a voucher instead of a new government-run system?

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Feb-21-13 8:57 AM

I agree--just an earlier chance to make sure these kids can't think for themselves but are obedient and subservient members of the flock--"sheeple". Maybe spending time with their Mom or Dad might be a good thing? Plus, studies show no learning advantage....but it does buy votes by giving some free babysitting.

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Feb-21-13 9:03 AM

Orchardfarmer, I disagree. My children went to public schools and they "turned out well". Not everyone can afford to send their children to christian or private schools. The kind of person a child grows up to be has more to do with their family life than where and when they go to school.

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Feb-21-13 9:15 AM

@yellowrose You are 100% right it's all about the Family ! A lot of great people in America have come out of really bad school systems. What mades the difference was the parents being there for their children.

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Feb-21-13 9:45 AM

You are correct when you say it is all about the family. Problem is, once you offer this kind of crap, many(not all) "families" choose the easy way out - free babysitting. And they buy into the lies put forth by those who are "educated". Head Start and Community Action , in my humble opinion, should be defunded! The sooner the better.

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Feb-21-13 9:58 AM

Another government handout for the poor/ disadvantaged on my dime. My family is not "at or below 200 percent of the poverty level". We spend $80.00 a month to send my daughter to preschool for 2 days a week. Out of our own pocket. So now they want us to fund preschool for poor/disadvantaged kids. At what point does the government*****my family dry so that we become the poor/disadvantaged and can qualify for handouts too?

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Feb-21-13 10:04 AM

Back in the day I taught preschool, and some children actually had no concept of numbers or letters or even colors. In kindergarten most children know them. There are already Pre K programs in some states in the school systems for disadvantaged or military dependents, so it's not an entirely new concept . I have recently been in these Pre k classrooms in the public schools as a volunteer and there is no indoctrination into anything but early childhood learning. I have no idea where you get these ideas.Private preschools have been around since I was a kid , it's not some new concept.

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Feb-21-13 10:33 AM

I agree that family is a very important part of a childs preparation to become a good citizen. But with todays Kindergarten requirements, pre-school has almost become a requirement, since to many parents don't care to help the child themselves. Parents of preschool children who don't do preschool, need to go to the childs upcoming school and check what requirements are needed to pass the Kindergarten testing requirements.

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Feb-21-13 10:40 AM

Another opportunity for parents to unplug and not be a parent. I'm sick to death of people having kids when they are still kids themselves, mostly out of wedlock, and then expect someone else to raise them, teach them and discipline them. Preschool may be ok for some, but if parents would go back to spending time with their kids, reading, coloring and such activities, we would not have to depend on somebody at a preschool to do it. My kids did not attend preschool, attended public school and are fine. It can be done, people! Raising kids is not for the lazy!

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Feb-21-13 11:10 AM

1921 ... Vladimir Lenin said, “Corrupt the young! Give me four years to teach the children." "Get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness. Get control of all means of publicity and thereby: Get the peoples’ mind off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance. Destroy the people’s faith in their natural leaders by holding up the latter to ridicule, contempt and obloquy. Always preach true democracy but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible. Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a soft and lenient attitude on the part of government towards such disorders. (continued)

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Feb-21-13 11:12 AM

(continued) ... Encourage government extravagance, destroy its credit, produce fear with rising prices, inflation and general discontent. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a soft and lenient attitude on the part of government towards such disorders. By specious argument cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view that confiscating them would leave the population defenseless.”

... History is preparing to repeat itself!

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Feb-21-13 11:22 AM

Karl Marx, author of the Communist Manifesto wrote: "We must remove the children from the crude influence of their families. We must take them over and nationalize them. From the first days of their lives they will be under the healthy influence of Communist children's nurseries and schools. The education of all children, from the moment that they can get along without a mother's care, shall be in state institutions at state expense."

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Feb-21-13 11:35 AM

Working stiff do not tell me I have to pay attention to you because your opinion is warped. I agree parents should take time with their children, I read to mine constantly, and yes shock I sent them to preschool. They went to public school ,college and did well. Some parents do not teach their children,they think it is the teachers job not their, and many come to kindergarten ill prepared. One poster said to look at the kindergarten requirements , they are expected to know a lot more than when you went to school. Don't lecture me, I work part time in the school system and I see how hard teachers work because parents don't do their job.

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Feb-21-13 11:35 AM

Asknot, the poor can already receive food stamps, reduced untility bills, reduced rent, prc loans, reduced child care expenses, and free health care. They can also receive help with college tuition. There are many people out there who would qualify for pell grants or state grants that would pay for all or most of a college education. I know a family of four, both parents are drug addicts, neither parent works and they receive $600 a month in food stamps! I budget, cut coupons and spends hours a week planning my grocery trip because we can't afford to spend much more than $100 a week. Why? Because we pay for our own mortgage and electric bill and student loans and preschool tuition. I'm not saying remove all help from the poor, but why not put conditions on assistance that enable a person to get out of poverty instead of making them dependent for life and a burden to the rest of us who break our backs everyday.

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Feb-21-13 12:03 PM

"Obama aides have said this and other new programs he's proposed will not add to the nation's nearly $16.5 trillion debt."

Yeah right! What a bunch of LIARS! Someone has to pay for it. I wouldn't trust anything anyone in the obama regime says.

Orchardfarmer I agree with you. There are too many things going on in public schools today. And the schools are no where near what schools used to be.

I would be weary of a govt. run program for 4 year olds. Especially one run by anyone in the obama regime which is probably a indoctrination program at its best.

Getting young minds early and poisoning them with liberal propaganda has been a goal of these people.

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Feb-21-13 12:05 PM

Preschool is fine ,but I do not believe it should be a mandate, I think this should be a choice, our children grow up way too fast. If parents would be parents and work with them instead of putting them in front of the TV and IPads , video games and truly spend quality time with them , they would be much better off, we want them to be grown up almost as soon as they are born. Families enjoy your children.. Kids need to have time to be kids.

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Feb-21-13 12:50 PM

Once upon a time kindergarten was something that children attended if their parents thought it was a good idea and had the money. It wasn't required. The people of that generation went on to build America. If pre-school becomes a requirement then maybe soon nursery school will become a requirement too. I see the current administration as too dictatorial and as trying to convince us that we should be homogenized and if we don't like it, then it will be forced upon us anyway. And it won't be FREE because nothing ever is.

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Feb-21-13 1:11 PM

exDev says teachers are working hard because parents don't do their job. Correct! and we as a society encourage such behavior by providing everything for these parents. There have always been "deadbeat' parents. It used to be a black mark and the community knew who they were. Now, it is bragged about and highly acceptable in too many circles. CUT THE FUNDING and watch how quickly the birth rate for welfare babies drops and many parents will return to their rightful position.

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Feb-21-13 1:26 PM

There is no mandate in this proposal. It's making preschool available to those who might not be able to afford it. Provides un-privileged children with a jump start on education and provides low income parents with more available time to go to work. Will some take advantage? Sure.. they always do. Doesn't mean the program is without merit.

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Feb-21-13 1:55 PM

The argument that the required level of learning necessary to enter kindergarten has increased may be valid. However, what has the benefit been of accelerating the kids' education at such an early age? Certainly we aren't seeing any benefits-drop out rates are high and society is dumbing down. Maybe we need to rethink not only the proposal but the status quo....

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Feb-21-13 3:45 PM

Preschooling for all, an exellent program to be implemented by an excellent, outstanding president of the united states!

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Feb-21-13 4:24 PM

belpremommy, wasn't you a single welfare mom for a long time? You always didn't pay your own way.

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Feb-21-13 6:18 PM

newworld... I was a single mom who worked 50 hours a week while going to college full-time. My two older kids didn't go to preschool even though financially I could have qualified. The only assistance we received was a meager amount of food stamps and my boys had medicaid (not me). I took out student loans to pay for my degree and the only reason we had food stamps at all was because I could pay for groceries or I could pay the rent. I don't have any grievance with those who work and are trying to better their lives. My issue is with the ones who sit on their butts all day and are dependent on the system and content to stay so. Sometimes people need a hand up, such was my case. It's the "hand out's" I'm opposed to. I could have very easily dropped out of school or worked 10 hours less a week so that I would qualify for more food stamps or medicaid for myself, but I chose to work and (hopefully) set a better example for my kids.

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Feb-21-13 7:34 PM

belpremommy, so you think you can say who gets help and who don't when you took in all the free stuff you could get? Is your middle name God?

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