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College may lose much of PSEO aid

February 26, 2013

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roksmith

Feb-26-13 7:35 AM

The PSEO program is one that should be enhanced, not repressed. Students can walk out with a college degree for the price of a high school education. It's a win-win situation for the kids that are emotionally ready.

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bwc511

Feb-26-13 7:44 AM

Honestly, Stiff. No more education cuts. We do not need more people with the same level of intellect as you.

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TiredTaxpayer

Feb-26-13 8:53 AM

"The Pell grant program is going really well. Last year, they put in the lifetime Pell limit which affected about 100 students," she said. The changes capped Pell Grant availability at six years per student, making fewer students eligible for the grants. CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY A PERSON WOULD TAKE 6 OR MORE YEARS TO COMPLETE 2-YEAR DEGREE PROGRAMS? MOST OF THE PEOPLE RECEIVING THESE GRANTS DO NOT WORK. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE FUNDING PROBLEMS IN COLLEGES. PEOPLE CONTINUE GOING TO COLLEGE RATHER THAN FINDING A JOB BECAUSE IT 'PAYS' THEM TO STAY IN COLLEGE (FREE TUITION, GAS CARDS, CHILDCARE, MONEY, ETC.) I AM SICK OF PAYING MY SHARE AND OTHERS ALSO!

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JoshBrown

Feb-26-13 9:02 AM

All college grants of any kind need to be cut back to the tuition and that's it. Need room ,food , and books get a part time job.

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yellowrose

Feb-26-13 9:58 AM

Exactly, TiredTaxpayer. I saw with my own eyes "students" going to WSCC trying to get their GED that they should have received by ATTENDING high school. So now they are basically getting a free ride while those of us responsible enough to work FULL TIME (and take college classes)help to pay their way. They just don't get it, and never will. Then they will have 3, 4 or more babies and teach them the same thing.

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READINGON

Feb-26-13 11:15 AM

PELL grant abuse is rampant. My family is not eligible for any PELL grant money because WE WORK! My children will finish college with student loan debt. Hard to swallow as they sit in class next to a person that has to pay NOTHING while that PELL grant recipient verbalizes how much they are looking forward to disbursement day at the school. This is when they get their free money above and beyond tuition that is for 'living expenses'. A very happy day for them indeed. The PSEO program is positive in many ways for high school students and from our experience utilized fairly to all students motivated enough to put forth the needed effort. PELL grant money...no. I agree 100% with TiredTaxPayer, Josh Brown and yellowrose. I have had direct experience with this situation and it is just sickening.

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StoneCold

Feb-26-13 11:16 AM

These programs don't need cut, but they do need revamped.

For example - make the recipients purchase used books if they are available instead of allowing or forcing them to purchase new books.

That's just one item that could save thousands.

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slogoin

Feb-26-13 11:26 AM

Workforce Investment Act.Take a look at where those funds CAN be awarded to.You will be real happy to find out that there is payback being handed out and votes purchased with taxpayer funds.

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JoshBrown

Feb-26-13 2:27 PM

Liberal's how they love other peoples money as long as it's not their own..............

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dogeared

Feb-26-13 5:22 PM

The PELL grant program is great for the committed student who will graduate and contribute to society. As a WSCC employee I have seen too many students who are there for the money only. As an example I talked to one student who complained that her refund check after tuition was slow and as a result her lay-a-way at KMart for furniture was going to be returned to stock. Seriously!!! Some of these students are using PELL funds for living expenses and everyone at the college knows it. Unfortunately we are not allowed because of FERPA law to report it. Rediculous!!!

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slogoin

Feb-26-13 5:24 PM

The WIA funds are a give back to the unions for the election.Check out for yourselves where that $$ is going to go.Union training programs(which are far BETTER than a college can offer)but still slid under the rug that your children are standing on(or were)

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letitflow

Feb-26-13 5:31 PM

The abuse of federal monies for education is unbelievable. I too am an employee at WSCC and we have many dedicated students on PELL grant money. However, there are many students who are definitely taking advantage of the money and have NO intention of finding a job. They are living day to day on the feds (your tax dollars!) money. There needs to be better tracking or something of how the monies are spent. Like one commenter said, how can the feds allow 6 years for a student to get a college degree. Unbelievable!

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Bulldog75

Feb-27-13 4:54 AM

As a former student that used the Montgomery G.I. Bill I had to work part time to make ends meet. I met woman there that would change her major every year and a half to keep her pell grants. She was there six years.

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Tessie

Feb-27-13 8:25 PM

Part of the story is about Pell grants. The other is about PSEO. Dedicated and high achieving high school students should be able to take advantage of PSEO. For those who seem to be unaware, PSEO allows a person to graduate with a high school diploma and an associate's degree at the same time. My nephew is 19 and has an associates degree in the computer programming field. He works full-time right now and goes to school to finish a bachelors degree by the time he's 20. Oh, and Pell grant free.

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