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Ohio’s same-sex marriage backers work against election deadline

Voters quick to choose sides

March 28, 2013

It’s not even on the ballot yet, but people are already lining up in support of and opposition to a proposed Ohio constitutional amendment that would legalize same-sex marriage....

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encinoman

Apr-18-13 12:45 PM

asknot, exactly as you state.... "interpreted..." Interpreted by an activist court. The so-called separation clause doesn't exist.

And Wikipedia is your source?!? ROFL... anyone can edit Wikipedia, even you.

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BeRight

Mar-31-13 1:45 PM

Meant Gay and Lesbian category in the Mid Ohio Valley?

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BeRight

Mar-31-13 1:44 PM

s u r p r i s e d is a bad word?

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BeRight

Mar-31-13 1:43 PM

I promise this is my last post on this: could you agree that most folks in the Mid Ohio Valley would be sur***** at the number of people that fall into the Gay and Lesbian category? Many Many more than most people would think.

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BeRight

Mar-31-13 9:46 AM

Changing the definition of Marriage, a term accepted world wide to mean on thing, to appease 5-7%(maybe) of the US population, would seema loss when all they want is equal rights. You can provide equal rights with Civil Unions with out changing the definition of Marriage. I am not against those people having equal rights. In fact, this would seem the way to go.

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BeRight

Mar-30-13 12:40 PM

So you see this as a win or lose proposition? That is the point of Civil Unions. The Civil Unions would give gays and lesbians everything they once wanted which would be a win. Not anymore. The target has changed. Now it is stepped up to changing the definition of Marriage. So if they win, your happy with all of the others being losers? Welcome to Obamaland where the word compromise has been removed from the dictionary.

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rocker

Mar-29-13 4:59 PM

Well I can see we are not going to agree on this asknot. I am outta here for now. Happy Easter everyone! :)

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rocker

Mar-29-13 4:19 PM

Asknot, gays have the same rights under the Constitution as anyone else. No where does it say gays have the right to marry.

And their using of the word "rights" to encroach upon and dismantle the institution of marriage is ridiculous.

Civil unions and changes to include govt. benefits should be acceptable.

Marriage has always been between a man and woman and should stay that way.

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BeRight

Mar-29-13 3:13 PM

They want to be allowed in the hospital room when their partner is in the hospital. They want survivor rights again etc etc etc. A Civl Union as described in my prvious posts will do all this. What more do you think is needed?

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BeRight

Mar-29-13 2:43 PM

Same sex couples want the same benefits and rights as Married couples get. Give Civil Unions the same legal status as Marriage in those “1,100 statutes in which marital status is relevant. This is all Edith Windsor would have needed.

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BeRight

Mar-29-13 2:40 PM

Civil Unions would get the money and benefits taking care of. It is about the money. That what is was about for Edith Windsor

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rocker

Mar-29-13 2:37 PM

Asknot, is your marriage a fallacy? If it is I'm sure your wife would be interested to know that lol.

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rollingstone

Mar-29-13 1:51 PM

ask not: gee thanks for the well reasoned and precisely worded reponse you blabbering idiot. Typical Leftist tactic...when checkmated you revert to insults. IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO??

Do us all a favor and stick with fishing...every day....24/7....away from the computer....

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thegreek

Mar-29-13 10:53 AM

What am I missing. I thought this marriage was a way to get medical care for their same sex spouse. With the new Affordable Health Care Act, everyone will have insurance correct?? I am not being facetious, I am curious.

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rollingstone

Mar-29-13 10:29 AM

ask not said the criteria for marriage is only consenting adults. so why not marriages of three or four people? why not incest? Or (for those of you who cant see the hyperbole) why not marry your favorite farm animal? Afterall sheep cant vote so their consent is not necessary...

The larger point is that it's hypocritical to cast this argument as a sacred matter of Civil Rights without logically extending the same criteria to these other situations involving consenting adults.

i know the proposed law doesnt include these situations but that's really irrelevant to the larger discussion. Afterall, it was only a few years ago that the current proposal would be found as repulsive as you all find the above examples involving consenting adults.

if you think this 'lowers' the discussion i suggest you spend less time on the computer and join ask not on her next fishing trip.

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BeRight

Mar-29-13 9:59 AM

Why not give Civil Unions the same legal status as Marriage in those “1,100 statutes in which marital status is relevant” and leave Marriage alone. This would take care of the Social Security issue, benefits issue, custody issues, estate issues, inheritance issues etc etc etc. This would seem a lot easier.

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encinoman

Mar-29-13 12:51 AM

asknot... as I thought: you don't even know where the supposed "separation of church and state" clause comes from. Again, I ask YOU (because I already know)to explain with a specific reference where it is.

Thank you for skipping the personal attack and moving right on to obfuscation. You use the phrase "separation of church and state" and I'm asking you directly, specifically: where is it in the Founding Documents?

Seriously, you've got a belief and you surely can back it up, right? Or are you just towing the party line?

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Chester05

Mar-28-13 11:53 PM

That "cornerstone" of America currently only has a 50/50 chance of not crumbling.

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AtticusFinch

Mar-28-13 10:05 PM

Burress described marriage as "the cornerstone of America" and said that "if you destroy marriage, you destroy America."

...yeah. So let's give more people access to marriage.

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Johnboi1973

Mar-28-13 9:17 PM

Separation of church and state. No religion can make the laws! It shouldn't matter if you're gay or straight. Every American should have equal rights!

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thegreek

Mar-28-13 8:34 PM

God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!!

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NasCarNut

Mar-28-13 6:27 PM

@ Rolling stone, from the article...

marriage shall be a union of two consenting adults not nearer of kin than second cousins, and not having a husband or wife living, and no religious institution shall be required to perform or recognize a marriage.

And just when did sheep become able to consent to anything??...

Marriage is a civil union any way you look at it; no god, church or religion is needed...

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encinoman

Mar-28-13 6:26 PM

asknot: Exactly where is the "separation of church and state" written and what's the quote... specifically. You quote it so you must know where it is.

And I happen to support gay marriage, by the way. Some say it's a "lifestyle" but I think they're just wired differently than I am. If it's a lifestyle then Down's Syndrome is a lifestyle, etc.

But... back to the "separation of church and state."... please tell me specifically where that is found.

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rollingstone

Mar-28-13 4:56 PM

pretty quiet all of a sudden arent we ask not (and know less) ... your distored world views and inconsistently applied moral judgements are obvious ....

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rollingstone

Mar-28-13 4:32 PM

ask not: if gay marriage and polygamy are all ok how about marriage between brothers and sisters? between fathers and their adult daughters? how about marrying your favorite pet like Fred and his sheep? all involve consenting adult / adults????

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