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‘Still Frontier kids’

What changes if Lawrence is converted to a charter school?

March 29, 2013

Becoming a charter school would not sever Lawrence Elementary’s ties with the Frontier Local school district....

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OhioRiverRat

Mar-29-13 8:22 AM

There is zero chance of passing a levy period. Let alone one that would cost more to keep it open. Anyone that thinks otherwise is in complete denial.

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AtticusFinch

Mar-29-13 9:05 AM

So they'll hand the school over to the private sector, but the district will still "provide a variety of services for the school." Keep the taxpayers on the hook, but strip them of their ability to govern. That's par for the course in today's America.

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newport1

Mar-29-13 10:58 AM

Obviously AtticusFinch and OhioRiverRat have not done their research, or attempted to attend a meeting about all of the proposed changes. The district will only provide the pay for the 3 teachers that will be employed at Lawrence, and only because they are part of their union. The upkeep, supplies, utilities, etc., will be paid for by the per-pupil funding Lawrence would receive from the state. And OhioRiverRat, you would be surprised what the Lawrence community can make happen, so don't be so quick to say that a levy won't pass. The reality is, if that levy doesn't pass, we have approx. 3 years before this district as a whole is either run by the state, or shut down completely. Those are the words of our Superintendent and our BOE members, no just my opinion. This plan would actually save the district money, because we as a conversion school, would absorb some of the costs the district is now fronting. Before you go throwing stones inside glass houses, please do your research.

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eagle2

Mar-29-13 11:22 AM

This is obvious that they do not do their homework it is just not for Lawrence kids this is for the district as a whole. so go ahead with you selfish ways OhioRiverRat and vote down the levy and see where your children end up. Frontier will be run by the state and it is a proven fact that the Lawrence area has a large number of voter and carry the elections.

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OhioRiverRat

Mar-29-13 11:44 AM

From the article "The millage rate would vary with the option selected, because some additional money would be needed if they go the charter route" Why will non-Lawrence residents support this? I have no problems where those kids choose to go in the future. Newport, New Mat, Fort Frye, River, Monroe Central, to me it makes no difference where the kids end up. I can't see why I should be so concerned that Lawrence stays open?

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eagle2

Mar-29-13 12:04 PM

It is this simple do you want a Frontier Local or not.

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thinkaboutit2

Mar-29-13 12:26 PM

Hey Eagle1 if the Lawrence community carries the majority of the votes..WHY didn’t you get your board member in office this past election? Off subject I know but just curious!!!

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lookingforanswers

Mar-29-13 2:22 PM

Looks as if the title of the article says it all, they are still Frontier kids! Looks like this is a great opportunity for that district show a positive, unlike so much we have read/heard in the past. With all the problems we read of neighboring schools and this districts past problems giving that community a honest go shows a great amount of fortitude. Looks as if they are truly not a burden on the district and will have even less draw if given this chance. Great job to those in support... this looks like a positive impact on all the communities involved. Please take the strain off the students and show your responsibility as parents.

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screamnegle

Mar-29-13 2:48 PM

just want to extend my thanks for solving the school funding problem there governor!anyone who would vote for this clown again ion this area,would be completely insane.....he doesn't care about this area whatsoever and proved it with the way he just crapped on the poor school districts!what a loser!

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newport1

Mar-29-13 3:11 PM

OhioRiverRat, what would require a larger millage is how many teachers they end up putting out at Lawrence. They are paying the salaries of the teachers, since they are part of their union. Lawrence parents want to keep their 6th graders, and if that happens, there would be a need for one additional teacher, on top of the 3 they are talking about placing out there. It has NOTHING to do with cost/expense of actually running the school. That will all be paid for with the per-pupil funding from the state.

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OhioRiverRat

Mar-29-13 3:47 PM

newport1, Do you agree that there is some enrollment number that it makes no sense to continue to operate that school? That's where I'm at. If it's not 45, where is it? I've never heard the Lawrence folks say that there is a point that they agree it makes sense to close it. I always see save the school at all costs.

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dude01

Mar-29-13 5:29 PM

If I remember correctly, the previous article on this topic said that this option would require an 8-9 mil levy, while closing it would require 7 and going grade level @ NES/MES would drop the millage clear down to 3-4. How can you honestly say that keeping Lawrence open won't cost the district any money?

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dude01

Mar-29-13 5:30 PM

Though the headline nailed it: "Frontier Kids." Kids will adapt. It's certain parents who want to hold on to traditions and grudges and not do what is fiscally responsible.

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lookingforanswers

Mar-29-13 5:36 PM

RAT, IF WHAT I HAVE READ IS ACCURATE THE CLOSURE OF LAWRENCE IS JUST GOING TO INCREASE THE CLASS SIZE AT THE OTHER SCHOOLS. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THERE HAD PARENTS COMPLAIN OF TO LARGE OF CLASS SIZES AT NEWPORT AND THIS REQUIRED ANOTHER TEACHER. IF THESE LAWRENCE KIDS ARE PUT INTO THE OTHER SCHOOLS THIS WILL NOT DECREASE THE NEED FOR TEACHERS, JUST PUT THE TEACHER IN A DIFFERENT BUILDING. IF THEY ARE OFFERING TO SUPPORT THE TEACHING STAFF WITH THIER FUNDING, LOOKS LIKE THAT SHOULD LESSEN THE BURDEN OF THE FRONTIER BOARD. THERE ARE SO MANY LOCAL SCHOOLS IN THIS SAME TYPE OF TROUBLE WE NEED TO SUPPORT ANYONE OFFERING TO HELP AND STAND BEHIND YOUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS, GIVE YOUR CHILDREN THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND GROW.

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MaryPoppins

Mar-29-13 7:08 PM

If keeping Lawrence open affects the quality of education for the rest of the district by taking money out 26, I'd be against it.

If the parents at Lawrence want to foot the entire bill along with the extra services that they expect.....NO Way.

Show me anywhere in Ohio where private schools are funded by local school districts. I understand certain services are required, but the fiscally smart thing to do is bite the bullet.

You only have to look as far as Marietta. How many schools did they close over the years. Smart financial thinking and planning.

The forest will not foot the bill; we need to be smart about our schools.

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WeThePeople

Mar-29-13 9:20 PM

Just put the different options on the ballot with the levy amounts required to fund the different options and let the voters decide how the district is configured.

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rollingstone

Mar-29-13 10:38 PM

welcome back to the hendricks street dumbdude...

all your pals over there and you were told we couldnt afford and wouldnt be able to fill up the new schools 10 years ago!!!!

tell you what dumbdude....dont give Lawrence a chance and see how many of your levies will pass in the future....

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lookingforanswers

Mar-30-13 7:50 AM

Looks like many of you are just posting things here to have something to do! Very few of these comments seem to be based on any true or actual facts, merely based on past grudges or just plain ignorance of the matters at hand. It looks like the residents of the Lawrence community are asking for nothing more or extra, nothing that doesn't already exist for all involved... actually looks like they are willing to take on part of the burden themselves, lessening the burden on they other communities. From what I saw in the last article if they do not give this option a honest attempt not only will they be out at Lawrence but the children of all the district will be suffering from this. As mentioned by dude01, they do seem to be holding on to traditions, not something that happens much in this world today. Most traditions, values, responsibilities, and accountability has went to the side. I'm proud to see people like them with some integrity!!!

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lookingforanswers

Mar-30-13 12:47 PM

After rereading the previous article from the Frontier board meeting, all of you in the district should look at the 3rd option: Who is that going to cause anguish? Who will the grudges be against then? Who will want to hold onto traditions then? Instead of try to blame one another, step up and help, learn the true issues, participate in your communities and your school. Make an improvement, concentrate on the good of one another and excel. Look around you, your circumstances could be lots worse, be happy that you have what you have, be glad that your board and your people want to help and are listening to your issues. Take a look at the paper that the good folks of Monroe County Schools got in their newspaper.

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