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Medications limited at jail

Painkillers, sleeping pills among banned prescriptions

April 24, 2013

A long list of painkillers, sleeping pills and other prescription drugs banned in the Washington County Jail was recently circulated by the sheriff’s office to spread the word that the prescriptions......

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Disapointed

May-02-13 3:14 PM

as for those of you who still ive under this midguided conception that the government, or we the tax payers, are paying for these inmates to "get high" on their prescribed medication, we are not. they charge the inmate's account, and they over charge, and tax them for these medications. yes there are times when an inmate has no money on his or her books, and that state is supposed to pay for it, but usually, well at least here in washington county, they dont give it to them, or give it to them less odten, and then the minute when someone puts money on their books, to buy underwear or socks, the jail takes it all out as back pay. so we are NOT paying for their medications. and some if not many of the inmates, bring in their medications with them when they are incarcerated. I know, its easy to judge from the outside, but around this area u can end up serving time for MotionPicture Piracy, for simply taking a photo of ur children sitting in theatre seats before a movie Actually

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Disapointed

May-02-13 3:01 PM

got this in mail today. "I am federal inmate currently housed in wash co. jail..I have seen where other inmates have been deined medical care, guards handing out medication to inmates. Also guards bringing in insulin syringes already loaded to inmates and losing the insulin and giving another inmate someone elses insulin. During all these occations there has never been a certified nurse or dr. here. It feels as though we are under the thumb of a tyrant, who doesnt help people going throughdrug(methadone)withdraws, that also goes against the Dr.s orders. Dr. Brockett said he has never stepped foot in this facilty. He is supposed to be the medical director in charge of this facility, he has no idea what is really going on. This needs to be further investigated and changed.There are many other discrepancies going on, too many for this article"

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Midgy86

Apr-29-13 8:51 AM

This is true hockey on the hoarding & selling but some of the drugs they listed weren't even narcotics. & in my opinion depriving them of certain medications such as for sleep or because they may have chronic pain plus were done on it prior to being put inside is wrong in my opinion. If the person hasn't had problems of selling drugs, abusing it or whatever else on the outside more than likely they won't there either. I feel those inmates should have the right to the medication.

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hockeyfan313

Apr-26-13 6:22 PM

I love how everyone is a medical professional & judge a situation without a medical degree. The inmates who may have a legitimate reason for a medication are obviously going to be taken care of BUT most medical related conditions can be taken care of without narcotics. @ rocker - ANY doctor can override a family doctor .. go to the HOSPITAL, lol; do you see many family doctors there? any doctor can prescribe if you are under their care. I don't know many family doctors who want to take responsibility for an inmate who landed themselves in the County jail. ALL inmates have the right to their own doctor if THEIR doctor wants to come and see them in person. Narcotics are the issue at hand and I'm wondering how many of you who think inmates should get narcotics actually work & pay taxes to support them? And ALSO - how many know that inmates try to hoard these drugs to hurt themselves, or sell them to other inmates? Just a thought.

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Midgy86

Apr-25-13 3:25 PM

give it to them. They're still people regardless.

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Midgy86

Apr-25-13 3:21 PM

I support this on some degree but I've never spent a day in jail in my life 27 years old & face it nobody is perfect. I am no, longer a washington county resident but across the bridge but if I were to make a mistake & end up in jail there for some unknown reason I wouldn't be given my medication I am prescribed for pain I deal with everyday & I do not abuse it nor am I an addict. So in my opinion some of these inmates yes, they screwed up for whatever reason it may be but they are still people & deserve to be given their medications if they aren't abusing it. I've had relatives in there who I know first hand did not get treated like they should have been so in my opinion the jail needs some work on staff because pretty sure there is some favortism & some inmates who aren't treated fairly while others are. You can tell an addict to someone who isn't. If they are addicts help them get clean if they take the medication before going in there prescribed by a doc give i

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SocialWorkRocks

Apr-25-13 1:48 PM

@Disappointed: so there are law suits? They sued over hot coffee at McDonald's do we stop making it because of the suits. There are millions of lawsuits everyday and many cannot be proven due to lack of medical evidence.

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SocialWorkRocks

Apr-25-13 1:45 PM

@Rocker: Yeah right. So if the State Prison doctor is not following the previous doctor's orders (gasp) how come you are not up in arms about that? Everyone is just commenting on the local level cause they can. Let's see you write a letter to the Ohio State Prison system and protest that they are not giving the inmates pain pills/sleep aides/methodone as their family doctor prescribed. People always want to play doctor and give out advice whenever possible, smh.

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rocker

Apr-25-13 11:43 AM

I don't see how this can stand especially if there is a legitimate need. If you were prescibed medications they should be given to you no matter what they are. What are they going to do when someone dies or committs suicide from lack of medications?

And using a "jailhouse doctor" to override the previous doctors decision who originally prescribed the meds is outrageous.

SocialWorkRocks- they don't need the medications in Ohio prisons. Inmates have plenty of other meds like coke, crack, pot, and meth.

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hockeyfan313

Apr-25-13 9:38 AM

And as for "legitimate", "incapacitated" in regards to requiring narcotics... most folks THAT ill, are NOT out committing crimes. Many are addicted to pain meds because they've built a tolerance, and it's not the pain but rather the "high" that leads them to needing more. And the same for anxiety treatment that leads to benzo addiction - it becomes a crutch after you've used for so long... plenty of anti-anxiety drugs which are NOT narcotic.

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hockeyfan313

Apr-25-13 9:28 AM

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NasCarNut

Apr-25-13 7:38 AM

It's one thing when someone is just a drug abuser, quite another when there is a legitimate need.

I'd bet Most in jail needing methadone are drug abusers..****e on people remember where we're at; in a town full of drug users and disability thief's...it's time to stop enabling them!!

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hockeyfan313

Apr-24-13 11:39 PM

Here's a concept: JAIL is NOT a comfortable place... it's not meant to be a place you want to be. The idea of jail is to punish those who break the law, in hopes they will change for the better and become law abiding. Many keep coming back.. so it must not be THAT bad (****)! OR... those who think this is so awful and rights are violated, are the very ones enabling them, therefore supporting their criminal behavior.

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localemt

Apr-24-13 9:38 PM

@Disappointed....how many people are in jail for "simple traffic tickets"? My estimate is....NONE. By the tone of your comment, I would venture to say that maybe you have someone who has been in the jail while addicted to methadone. As far as being on high doses for 10 years....shame on the physician who would prescribe such a dose for such a long period of time...THAT is an injustice to the patient!

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Ann1947

Apr-24-13 9:32 PM

Dr.Mincks is playing hard ball...If we can't have (steal) your pills...Then you won't get Your pills...Ha! Ha! Ha!

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rightminded

Apr-24-13 8:27 PM

MariettaNurse, you might want to do more research on what medications are used to treat M/S with.

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MariettaNurse

Apr-24-13 6:59 PM

The inmates are given medications to help with withdrawl.. Only 7% jails and prisons throughout the country allow any controlled substances. Here is an idea: OBEY THE LAW AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO TO FRICKIN JAIL. Just look at the public records to see how many of these "poor mistreated inmates" are repeat customers. FYI: any antidepressants, MS drugs, blood pressure meds, etc are continued in jail. If they want their methadone and vicodin and xanax stop trafficking in drugs and receiving stolen property and robbing people.

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Tessie

Apr-24-13 6:23 PM

"Vicodin, Norco, Percocet, OxyContin, Lyrica and Morphine. Also, no Tramadol will be approved"

And what about those prisoners who have legitimate, recognized need for medication to help with intractable pain?

"No benzos will be approved. This includes Xanax, Ativan, Valium, and Klonopin" Again what about those people who have emotional & mental disorders that require sedation medications?

Seems to me the County Jail is setting itself up for medical neglect suits. It's one thing when someone is just a drug abuser, quite another when there is a legitimate need.

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janeeyre1

Apr-24-13 4:41 PM

In a world where too many seniors have to choose between eating and paying for their meds why are we even discussing what a crackhead in jail should or shouldn't have? Instead of discouraging people to resort to crime we are making it look like they are checking into the Hilton. If they have a serious condition they should have thought of that before they resorted to crime?

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asears75

Apr-24-13 3:33 PM

i think this is a great idea!

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Disapointed

Apr-24-13 3:17 PM

Just a few cases, when the inmates who were not arrested for drug charges, but rather simple traffic tickets, died from methadone withdrawl due to jail staff refusing to give them their prescription.

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*******gritsforbreakfast.blogspot****/2011/06/2nd-gregg-county-methadone-death-spurs.html

*******janaburson.wordpress****/2010/09/04/law-enforcement-behaving-badly/

*******articles.orlandosentinel****/2001-08-02/news/0108020292_1_methadone-jail-florida-treatment

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Disapointed

Apr-24-13 3:09 PM

there have been countless incidents across the country where other county jails have thougth they were also "doing the right thing" by banning these prescriptions that were legally prescribed by doctors, and have ended in millions paid out to wrongful death lawsuits. People can be prescribed methadone for things other than drug addiction. It has also been prescribed as a pian management. It's not hard to become a qualified Methadone distributor, and many jails and prisons across the country have come to the realization that doing so is the right thing to do. witholding methadone from inmates who have taken it legally in such high doses as 100 mg a day for 8 or 10 years,who are not drug addicts, strung out on ******, can be lethal. Even Dr. Michael Brocket himself agrees in some cases they should be put into a quick step down program. sadly the jail chose to go agaianst the medical advise of their "medical director" as recently as last week

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SocialWorkRocks

Apr-24-13 1:43 PM

@localemt: That is a good point that I never thought of! Someone should pass this along to Mr. Smith, might switch his way of thinking.

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localemt

Apr-24-13 1:34 PM

I would refer the skeptics of the methadone administration to research the Ohio Revised Code, where it clearly states that a physician cannot prescribe, dispense, or manage methadone unless they are specifically designated as a CLINIC or PROGRAM....both of which, Dr. Brockett is NOT!!!!! As litigious as most people are today, especially those all too familiar with the penal system, I am certain a suit would have been filed if there were any credit to Mr. Smith's concerns. Kudos to Dr. Brockett for protecting his license and having a backbone!!!

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SocialWorkRocks

Apr-24-13 11:54 AM

@GonefromtheMOV: LOL! and who are you to question a board certified medical doctor in regards to his treatment decisions? Do you want to move back and take over the position? Like I said the Doctor is doing his job and doing it well. No one harmed in how many years? Anxiety meds, sleep aides and Methadone are not mandatory life saving medications.

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