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Common Core under fire by area’s reps

July 25, 2013

State and federal legislation aims to put the brakes on the Common Core curriculum standards even as Ohio schools are getting ready to start their first year under the recently controversial progra....

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Jul-25-13 6:59 AM

Obviously these two can't think of anything to do. Why don't you ban Sharia Law in Marietta?

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Jul-25-13 7:56 AM

Uhhh...ok.Actually Oneill,Mr Thompson is doing what he was elected to do by conservatives.Purging the school system of laws and regs that have forced a monopoly situation in our school systems.Guess what?I can get class size's and a clean learning environment for my children at a private school for less than just the states contribution(less local amts via property levies)Your monopoly is broken,by the very actions imposed on the taxpayer by the NEA

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Jul-25-13 8:27 AM

Calling all conservatives "nutjobs" is the same as calling all Democrats "liberal".Simply isnt so.Kinda funny.Sports are said to enhance childrens education via competition.Why are the school systems fighting competition so hard?

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Jul-25-13 8:32 AM

Other than tax collections,name me 1 efficient monopoly.

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Jul-25-13 8:33 AM

The Postal Service? Fannie Mae?FDIC?Goverment?

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Jul-25-13 8:39 AM

Why do you think Union Trasdesmen can make twice as much/hr and do the job with virt the same budget.Efficiency****petition breeds it.

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Jul-25-13 8:39 AM

hmmm..****petition blocked?

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Jul-25-13 9:18 AM

oneill, I suggest you go back and do your reading. Common Core is a Federal program tied to No Child Left Behind and what it does is line the pockets of big business at the expense of kids.

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Jul-25-13 9:39 AM

Hates public education? Really.My experience with Marietta's teachers has been great.Genuine concern for my kids.Parent/Teacher conferences have been more than a mere meet and greet and productive.Now,get rid of expensive no bid contracts,extra gov regs,excessive superintendent costs ect and give that to the teachers and see what great thing could really happenRun the schools and cirriculum(so) like a business and show our children what the real world holds for them.A competitive,efficient and unencumbered education with a cirriculum chosen by educaters,not unions and commitee's in columbus and Washington.Forcing these mandates are a slap in the face to the well educated teachers that we have employed.

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Jul-25-13 9:42 AM

Go to Frontier and ask them what that carrot on a stick(new buildings) have done to the financial situation in their system

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Jul-25-13 9:53 AM

hmmm..but I guess if standards arent set,we would have a bunch of left wingers coming from your classroom Oneill

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Jul-25-13 2:16 PM

it is time for our local, state and national education systems to be changed. what we are currently doing is not working. take detroit for example: in 2012 they spent around $12,000 to $13,000 per pupil for the school year. according to the department of education, only 7 percent of the eighth graders in Detroit are grade-level proficient or better in reading and only 4 percent scored enough to be rated proficient or better in math. this is abysmal and should be a wake-up call for everyone. if we consider the money spent per pupil, the cost of a private/charter school education(superior) would be very affordable to the taxpayer. the problem would be the teachers and their unions as well as the control of and by the politicians. with the poor performance statistics/dollar spent ratio, some would argue that we are not spending enough. thinking along those lines have given us what we have now and as Fred says..." you can thank a teacher" well as the administrators, the boar

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Jul-25-13 2:17 PM

board of education, the nea, the department of education, our politicians and our own general lack of due diligence for not demanding better from ourselves, our children and our government. the problem goes beyond common core.

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Jul-25-13 4:24 PM

Sherrod brown, good man

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Jul-25-13 7:31 PM

public education fair and equal, i think not. the best we as a nation can do, i think not. waste and one room school thinking still in charge, i think so. personal gain and position more important than student walfare, some what. getting the public money worth NO. randi weingaeten said it better than I.

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Jul-25-13 8:39 PM

You can thank the good people trying to stop this mess later.

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Jul-25-13 8:47 PM

ok, fred..lets look at chicago. in 2012 they spent roughly $25,000.00 per pupil and 79% of eight grade students were not reading at their level and 80% were not at grade level for math. that is terrible. the educators are well aware of the problems with students, parents, curriculum, administration and staffing issues. they are the educated but continue to plug along with the aforementioned results. changes are needed. private schools as well as charter schools have a much greater success rate due to many obvious reasons which i shall not list so as not to seem insensitive to those that offend easily. i suggest that you take a moment and read again the second part of my original post. you will see that i, ultimately in the end, blame ourselves (parents), the children and our government which we stupidly re-elect to administer obvious failing programs. rather than consider charter schools a threat, why not support a successful educational option for our children and your grandchildren.

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Jul-25-13 8:48 PM

would you chose the life-long tenure and perpetual benefits of those that provide the failing system over what will benefit our future adults? btw, mississippi did quite well but alabama did not fare as well. however the $ spent per pupil was much less than the average. the point is something has to change. have a great evening fred.

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Jul-27-13 12:50 PM

Common Core should be banned. It dumbs down some math requirements and requires high school students to read the EPA manual.

Some schools have kicked out Common Core and I hope people read up on this if you have kids in school.

Sorry oneill, common core was born and bred by ivory tower libs like Bill Gates.

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Jul-29-13 8:24 AM

rocker - You are misinformed. The texts listed in Appendix B of the ELA standards is an EXAMPLE reading selection list. Non of the texts in Appendix B are required, that statement is wrong.

I have a bachelor's and masters degree in Mathematics. I would like you to expand on you comment about dumbing down math. I completely disagree with your statement. What it has done is get rid of the fluff that was taking away from students mastering the necessary skills in the early grades necessary for higher level math in high school.

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Jul-29-13 8:27 AM

Too many "concerned citizens" are believing what political radicals are saying. Do the research yourself!!! Go to the sources, it took me less than an hour to find that most of the "experts" on this blog had arguments against CC that are completely false and unsubstantiated!!! Be your own thinker, don't just get on here and repeat what you were told was truth.

I disagree with him most of the time, but is O'Neill is right about this one!

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Jul-29-13 8:28 AM

Common Core standards started when George Busch was president.

It is not Obama's.

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Jul-29-13 9:40 AM

It is also not Bush's. It was developed under the National Governors Association.

From StateImpact - Ohio Eye on Education; "The ABC's of the Common Core in Ohio" The Common Core is better than what Ohio teachers are supposed to be teaching in math and English today, the Fordham Institute says. The group gives Ohio’s current English language arts standards a “C” and the Common Core English standards a “B+.” Ohio’s current math standards get a “C” and the Common Core’s an “A-.”

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Jul-29-13 9:42 AM

Do a Google search for "Crosswalks for Ohio's College and Career Ready Standards" and look at the side by side comparison of the Ohio Academic Content Standards vs. the CCS and make your own judgment.

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