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A day on the rig

Southern Ohio farmland accommodates drilling, animals

August 15, 2013

WILLS TWP. — To illustrate how nature and horizontal oil and natural gas drilling can coexist at a well pad in Guernsey County, David Hill points to the livestock....

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atlas2025

Nov-24-13 2:40 PM

"Fracking is not dangerous .. "

Yea tell that to my Dads buddy who was at a well site. One of the frak trucks pumping liquid nitrogen blew a line. Luckily everyone seen what was about to happen and got out of the way before it blew.

Yep thats not dangerous at all.

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CTownNo3

Aug-23-13 10:23 AM

How many of you have actually worked on a frac site before and have the slightest bit of knowledge about what goes on? Until you have, stop posing like you know what occurs. People fear what they don't understand. You better get use to it, because Monroe, Noble, and possibly (hopefully) Washington County are hitting some monster wells that Ohio has never seen. So keep bi#ching about fracing while you long for your iPhone, which is truly powered by natural gas!

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Megsmom

Aug-20-13 3:48 PM

Cry babies ! Just a bunch of jealousy going on.Fracking is not dangerous .. It is going to make jobs and help the state !!! Those who are whining around are those who can not benefir from the bonus money or royalties.Happy for land owner and farmers who work their butts off on their lands.. To finally get a long deserved break in life.I know many people who haft quit their minimum wage job to double and triple their take home pay to better themselves and provide a better life for their families.Drilling is a blessing for many. Come drill on me ! You can tear my garage down and set a pad in my front yard lol would love it..

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scrappile

Aug-15-13 7:45 PM

The word for today is public relations: A pr firm that represented big tobacco, now represents the natural gas fracking industry, we KNOW cigarettes cause cancer, and we know fracking fluids contain carcinogens, but we don't know if fracking fluids will lead to cancers, pfffft.....livestock crap.....

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Apostrophe

Aug-15-13 6:49 PM

Not sure what all the fuss is about in the comments section today. I for one have always gauged the temperament of nearby cattle as a moral compass whenever an important decision arises. I mean, this is the sort of brain power that's made America the great country it is today. Moo.

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Harleyrider

Aug-15-13 4:37 PM

asknot, makes a lot of sense for tort reform to take place. If this were to happen the ambulance chasers and their ilk would be out of a job. We the people though, would greatly benefit.

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Harleyrider

Aug-15-13 4:14 PM

asknot, I know that you are not saying to regulate the temp. of peoples houses, but there are people out there that think it is a good idea. I read about the loophole, and I know it can go both ways. Like I said, new model for businesses. Basically, society benefits from people being responsible, as costs will always go down, no matter the industry. Think of this, responsible employees don't steal pens at work. How much will be saved by office supplies not being pilfered? Of course companies need to act responsibly as well. How much can they save from needless lawsuits?

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Harleyrider

Aug-15-13 4:00 PM

asknot, I agree with you on conserving. The problem is that we really can't force people to conserve. You have the right to keep the temperature in house at whatever level you want. It is your money. Responsibility can't be legislated and to attempt to do so erodes the freedom of everyone. This is a very dangerous and slippery slope. I do not need or want the government playing nanny to people. It is bad enough already.

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Harleyrider

Aug-15-13 3:51 PM

asknot, while I am all for some sensible oversite of fracking, I know all to well what happens when the government puts regulations into place. These regulations tend to come from bureaucrats that lack the knowledge and expertise to enact sensible regulations. With that said, I think that that a new model for businesses needs enacted. This model should be based on the idea that doing things the right way will increase profit in the long run. costly legal battles can be avoided as a cost of doing business.

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Harleyrider

Aug-15-13 3:39 PM

asknot, heat is very accurate. Thermostats and blowers do not work without electric. You can cut down trees, but then you are taking away trees, which is a big no no for enviromentalists.

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chocobean

Aug-15-13 3:31 PM

The vertically hydraulically fractured wells that began in the 40's are not at all comparable to the horizontally fractured wells we are discussing. Horizontally hydraulically fracturing wells began in Texas in the 90's. This may be an "old" technology, but we are using it in a much larger scale and in new and unstudied ways. Show me some independent studies saying it's safe. Why can't we do better than saying too bad for you if it's your family that takes the collateral damage?

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Harleyrider

Aug-15-13 3:03 PM

Here is the bottom line that many people fail to understand. We need cheap energy. Without it, we as a nation are doomed. Will this create pollution? Absolutely it will. Will people die sooner than they should? Probably. The alternative is no heat or electric. You get a pristine environment with very few people because people will die from exposer and illness. There is a trade off. Do this in the most enviromentely friendly way possible that is cost effective. This is just the reality of the situation. Until all of you people crying about the environment give up your plastic, your cars, your heat, and your electric, you need to quit squalling because you are as guilty as the companies that go after the resources.

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Harleyrider

Aug-15-13 1:54 PM

NEWSFLASH: Fracking has been going on in this area for 40 years!!! Show me the devistation, and I might believe most of the naysayers rhetoric.

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Crystal99

Aug-15-13 1:09 PM

I want to shut something down until someone can make it/prove it's safe. I want to shut it down before it hurts MY family. What gives anyone the right to sacrifice their neighbors for money? 6.5% is UNACCEPTABLE! That is the initial failure rate. The eventual failure rate is 100%. That means, that eventually those of us with well water within an unknown distance (at this time we know it is at least 1 mile out) likely will end up with all the naturally occurring contaminates (methane, arsenic, etc)in our water. We will all have worthless homes, and will have to truck in a water buffalo. It is not OK to sacrifice my family for yours or anyone else's.

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momma4

Aug-15-13 1:04 PM

Oh I didn't vote against Obama because he was a Dem, I actually voted against him because I think he is an ignorant a**. And no I have no problem with Anger management, pretty happy person here. Crystal99, I am not saying it hasn't happened, but 6.5% and you want to shut down something that provides food on the table for thousands of families in the USA, again everything comes with a risk, its called progress. I don't trust the big guys in Washington either and thats who is running the show. Asknot, your use of exclamation points is rather dramatic, maybe you need therapy. Just saying lol

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Crystal99

Aug-15-13 12:54 PM

Take the Hallowich Family for example. They had dangerous levels of chemicals in their well water found only around here in fracking fluid (aka, Brine). They sued, Range Resources settled with them. 2 years later the Pittsburgh Post Gazette sues the courts to open the sealed case under the FOIA. Turns out, Range settled for $750,000 on the condition that the Hallowich's and their CHILDREN (aged 7 & 10 at the time) never speak of horizontal drilling, Marcellus shale, Range, etc. They issued a gag order on children. The judge and Hallowich attorney expressed concern that a child is unable to legally give up their first amendment right. Seriously, these are the people who can ruin everything for all of us with one bad move. Do you trust them? I sure don't.

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Crystal99

Aug-15-13 12:39 PM

I actually clean using natural products, and mostly with just plain old vinegar, a natural disinfectant. Even if I didn't 1 gallon of bleach is not the same as 55,000 gallons of who knows what going through my water table with nothing between my water and it but cement. I want to clarify, I am not worried about any danger from cement, but from cement casings failing. They fail initially 6.5% of the time. Industry itself admits that this is a problem.

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momma4

Aug-15-13 12:12 PM

Asknot, I did reread my posts because I was worried that I had called someone a name....I didn't. Obviously your upset, please reread your posts "Rainbows and Kittens" sorry but sarcasm does nothing for me and doesn't make you look smart. Yes as a matter of fact I do know where our oil comes from and Crystal99 is correct Chesapeake is owned by China, however they are no longer the main drilling company in this area, most are owned by companies here in the states, American people benefitting instead of foreigners, oh and yes I am a Republican, and proud of it, but guess what, our yearly income is below 50,000 with 7 kids between the two of us, we vote "R" because we believe that Obama is a coward and looking to ruin us, oh and I own guns, I don't get public assistance we both work full time. Anything else?

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momma4

Aug-15-13 11:50 AM

No Swilson60, not the paycheck, the ignorance of some....thats all :)

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momma4

Aug-15-13 11:49 AM

Asknot, what names did i call you or anyone else, I spoke of spewing poison, tree hugging green lovers, if your insulted by this I apologize, maybe you don't like trees?? And I was talking about Fracking as well though I appreciate your sarcasm, makes you look so smart :)The chemicals Crystal99 mentioned, well its kind of like mixing a cup of bleach with a gallon of water, they are diluted and please take a look at the back of some of your everyday household cleaning supplies in your home Crystal99, since your so cautious you may want to eliminate some of these, and the only thing used while doing cement casing, is cement and water. The local plants in the area pump worse than that into the river everyday.

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Crystal99

Aug-15-13 11:37 AM

I do my best to minimize risks to my family and myself. I wear my seatbelt, I drive at/below the speed limit, I don't text while driving. I would greatly appreciate if Rex energy would keep their 55,000 gallons of toxic chemicals, some of which I am not allowed to know about, away from my water well. I would like them to minimize my risk by not flaring next to my home, polluting the air my children and I breathe. There is a horizontal well less than 1500 feet from my house. I would like my risk to be minimized by them keeping their industrial activities away from residential areas.

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Crystal99

Aug-15-13 11:31 AM

It is actually the foreigners who profit from our gas. After Chesapeake drilled the heck out of much of this country, Chesapeake Energy (CHK) announced a deal to sell half of its oil and gas assets in northern Oklahoma to Sinopec, one of China's largest oil producers, for $1 billion. China stands to benefit the most from our endeavors.

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Crystal99

Aug-15-13 11:24 AM

What do they put in the ground when they frack? I'm glad you asked....hydrochloride acid, glutaraldehyde, quaternary ammonium chloride, tetrakis hydroxymethphosphonium sulfate, ammonium per sulfate, sodium chloride,magnesium peroxide, magnesium oxide, calcium chloride, choline chloride, isopropanol, methanol, formic acid, acetaldehyde, petroleum distillate, boric aced, ethylene glycol, naphtalene, toluene, titanium dioxide, anhydrous ammonia, benzene, bronopol, and these are only a few of hundreds of chemicals. Each well takes an average of 5.5 mil gallons of water to dill horizontally & vertically. They add 55,000 gallons of these chemicals to the water. That's a lot of chemicals in/on the ground if there is a spill, a tear in the plastic liner, a cement casing job that doesn't hold up, among a number of other workplace mishaps that happen everyday.

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formermttan

Aug-15-13 11:18 AM

Amen, Momma4! Too much misinformation put out there; much is sponsored by foreigners that stand to lose if we become energy independent. I say "drill, baby, drill!" The sooner the better!

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momma4

Aug-15-13 11:09 AM

And Crystal99, please don't tell me about the dangers of drilling operations, I know what the dangers are because I am faced with the reality of them everyday that my husband leaves for work, but there are far more car accident fatalities on a daily basis then there are Oil rig fatalities, but I bet you are still driving around in your car aren't you. Everything comes with a risk, every job, every action we take every day.

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