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Devola sewer system discussion

September 14, 2013

On Tuesday, residents of Devola will have the opportunity to learn more about an alternate plan for a proposed sewer system for the community....

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StoneCold

Sep-16-13 12:48 PM

DevilsAdvocate - Oak Grove and Reno are NOT included in this. This 6 MILLION DOLLAR project is for 320 homes ONLY! And any home in Devola that is out Masonic Park Road past the fire house is NOT included.

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StoneCold

Sep-16-13 12:45 PM

Valveguy - NOT all of the nitrates are coming from septic so a sewer system will NOT solve the problem either.

Devola is surrounded by farm land where chemical fertilizers are used - NITRATES.

On these farms the actually spread animal waste from the dairy farm in Stanleyville on the ground - NITRATES.

I cannot prove it, but I have seen the solid waste truck from the Marietta Waste Water Treatment Facility out on these fields spreading treated human waste - NITRAITES.

Add lawn fertilizers - NITRATES to all of these and the issue of the septic tanks become a much smaller part of the problem.

And For Your Information ALL of the research and study panels have come to the conclusion that C8 does NOT have a direct correlation to any health issues. Only the lawyers who stand to make millions have found any connections.

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Valveguy

Sep-16-13 8:20 AM

Typo: The RO system does not solve the problem asknot. It cleans the water. The problem of lousy and leaking septic systems and nitrates in the ground water still exists.

If Dupont gave clean water to all the residents affected by C8, does that solve the problem the C8 problem?

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Valveguy

Sep-16-13 8:18 AM

The RO system does not solve the problem asknot. It it cleans the water. The problem of lousy septic systems and mitrastes in the ground water still exists.

If Dupont gave clean water to all the residents affected by C8, does that solve the problem the C8 problem?

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DevilsAdvocate

Sep-15-13 10:21 PM

Lastly, I don't have septic. So I concede the angst residents have. So I say good luck! I suspect many more comments are to come as the details are learned by all of us.

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DevilsAdvocate

Sep-15-13 10:21 PM

SC, thanks for complementing my rear end. OBTW, it isn't ignorant. The O phone was to be antagonistic. It worked. Downside, you didn't bother to illuminate us readers as to the existing legal matters, if any.

Are R & D ruining everything for political slime? I actually thought previous commissioners sealed this deal. Speaking of the deal.. If they did, where was the county revolution? Speaking to the cost. Is it 6 million for Devola only? Or is it six million for Devola, Oak Grove, & Reno? Or is it a $6 mil overhaul for the sewer plant that includes piping all of your waste? Why aren't the other communities complaining? Why the ire for Marietta? What did the City do in this? I've read that the city only offered their services. I lived out there once, but disliked having to travel Colegate or Muskingum to get to where I wanted to go.

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StoneCold

Sep-15-13 9:58 PM

BeRight the number asknot was quoting was the homeowners expense to hook up to the sewer.

This is above the %1000 a year assessment on their taxes for 10 years and the monthly fee of $100.

For someone who thinks he knows everything you sure are bad at reading comprehension and math.

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StoneCold

Sep-15-13 9:55 PM

DevilsAdvocate - PLUS there have not been direct lines to the Muskingum for decades.

As for our past Commisioners - they had 9 months to study the EPA's plan, yet they signed off on it in 3 days.

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StoneCold

Sep-15-13 9:52 PM

DevilsAdvocate - I should be ignoring your ignorant A** after the welfare and Obama phone comment, but it is because people haven't tried to teach you anything that you have grown into a moron.

As for the cost: $750 to $1000 a year assesment on property taxes for 10 years. Must pay to have septic tank cleaned, bottom punched out of it and then filled, then pay to get your sewer line from the back of the house to the front and pay for a tap. THEN add at least $100 a month sewer bill for ever!!!

Even you should be able to understand why Devola residents are saying no!

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BeRight

Sep-15-13 8:53 PM

We said DA. asknot qouted the $20K before and now has backed down to $10K. I have heard that it could really be as low a 5K depending on whom you use. The analogy of would you install new roof if yours is new and works fine does not compute. If I just bought a new tent and all of a sudden someone gave me a choice of a something called a roof, just because my tent did not leak does not mean I would run away from a roof.

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DevilsAdvocate

Sep-15-13 3:56 PM

Lastly.. The Devola resident screaming "annexation" is doing just that, screaming. Dude, look up the process of annexation & you will see that all the work is on Devola. Marietta would be along for the ride. Speaking of annexation, why not? If you do, then Marietta's council can build that bike trail. A hearty ****

Seriously though, if this is a done deal, what Devola folk are writing the checks for legal council? Do either D or R live in Devola? What if at the end of the day their chest beating b/c they didn't like the girl costs you a whale load of money? In fact more than what sewer would have cost? And in the end you end up having to still follow through with a pre-existing deal. What a buzz kill that would be. Boy I sure do hope these two are as good as they preach. If not, you all will be more broke b/c times are changing on 10/1

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DevilsAdvocate

Sep-15-13 3:44 PM

Thoughts & questions??? 1 Why does everyone keep using $20K? Is it a factual number, or one used to gin up fright & anger?

2 The whole idea in a civilized community is to graduate from outhouses to plumbing & bathrooms. Same applies to septic & connected sewer. If this be true, why in heck do you Devola residents demand it to be free? Are you a bunch of welfare recipients there w/ O phones?

3. It is a fact that Devola has been cited with dumping, (pun) poo in the Muskingum. That is a no-no. Hence the reason the last bunch started a process, (means spent $) to connect to the City of Marietta

4. What makes the two guys better than the last three commissioners? The way I see it, the last bunch studied this county matter with the three areas for many years, & did what they thought best. D & R have been in office what, 1+ years & they find themselves (G.O.D.) 'all knowing'??? That is the complex in D.C.

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Valveguy

Sep-15-13 2:50 PM

Also, will everyone's hook up cost the $20,000 I keep hearing? Everyone?

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Valveguy

Sep-15-13 2:50 PM

Nitrates do in also come from farm run off. The Friends of the Lower Muskingum River or FLMR, are very concerned about that and working to prevent this. So we have identified poorly working septic systems and farm run off as possible contributors to Nitrates. Also, my reference to poop discharging in septic systems was out of line since I know better and I do know how they work. My point to begin with is why someone would turn down an opportunity to get an a sanitary sewer when the opportunity was given to them? Maybe I don’t know this but are Septic Systems maintenance free? I know many people who would never consider buying a house on a septic system. What is the long term advantage to being on a septic system vs. a Sanitary Sewer System? I prefer that someone else take care of my stuff.

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StoneCold

Sep-15-13 12:58 PM

BeRight & irisheyes _ it is apparent that you know NOTHING about the workings of a septic system. When one is working properly no "poop" is ever discharged into the environment.

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StoneCold

Sep-15-13 12:56 PM

Valveguy - NOT all nitrates come from septic. Some come from fertilizers (lawns and farms.)

Plus why are they not making the area farms that are over the aquifer stop spreading animals waste (and possibly human waste from the Marietta waste water treatment plant)on their fields?

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Valveguy

Sep-15-13 12:04 PM

One more more comment: not everyone will be charged $20,000. That is worst case. Most will be much cheaper.

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Valveguy

Sep-15-13 11:56 AM

I read over the years that there was high level of nitrates in the ground water. I guess not everone's work 100%.

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exofDevola

Sep-15-13 10:57 AM

I would not want to pay to hook up with the Marietta system if I still lived in Devola. I also would not want an unsafe sewer system. There has to be a solution that does not charge the residents an exorbitant amount of money for something they already have. Stone is right septic tank systems, if properly maintained can work .I hope they find some middle ground at the upcoming meeting.

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BeRight

Sep-15-13 8:58 AM

Why would anyone pass up a chance to get on the sewer system instead of pumping p o o p to your back yard and then drinking the water that filters through that p o o p.

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irisheyes

Sep-14-13 10:07 PM

All sewage needs to be treated at a federally regulated sewage treatment plant, no exceptions, private systems are not good enough!!!

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morningperson

Sep-14-13 12:02 PM

We don't need no sewers. Nowhere in the bible does the good lord say anything about sewers. We don't need no bike paths or schools either. We don't need nothing.

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slogoin

Sep-14-13 10:58 AM

Stone..we have a pretty good start on the commissioner thing..we are lucky to have White and Feathers.I like how Cora threw a fit on the leasing of the county mineral rights and commented a she were still in office about attorney fee's..which she was totally wrong on.

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slogoin

Sep-14-13 10:55 AM

to whomever disagreed to my post about the health dept..it is not opinion..it was presented and discussed as revenue generation..not a health issue

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StoneCold

Sep-14-13 10:41 AM

When will the people stop allowing our elected officials spend money we don't have on projects that we do not need?

A properly maintained septic system is just as effective as a municipal system. Yet these people want the citizens of Devola to pay for a "service" they already have.

These bike paths are another example of wasted tax dollars. The "River Trail" in Marietta doesn't allow people to walk or ride their bike to or from anywhere that there wasn't already a sidewalk or road in place to take them there.

Our elected officials are spending MILLIONS on unneeded projects while the infrastructure we already have in place crumbles due to neglect and old age.

It MUST END! The Devola Sewer project is a good place to start!

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