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Shutdown pain

Little local impact now, but that changes on Oct. 17

October 8, 2013

As the partial federal government shutdown entered its seventh day Monday, there’s some concern that if the situation continues for too long there will be an impact on local economies across the......

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oldhickory

Oct-08-13 6:06 AM

The Who.... And the morals that they worship will be gone And the men who spurred us on Sit in judgement of all wrong They decide and the shotgun sings the song

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Valveguy

Oct-08-13 11:47 AM

Hey Charlotte: the federal workers will all get retroactive pay. Charge now, pay later. As far as Head Start goes ever where on TV it said Head Start was cut but this guy says Head Start was exempted.

BTW: Head Start is nothing more than a gov’t run day care center. We spend more than $7 billion providing Head Start to nearly 1 million children each year. There is indisputable evidence about the program's effectiveness, provided by the Department of Health and Human Services: Head Start simply does not work. So lets save 7 billion.

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Helper

Oct-08-13 12:45 PM

(from the article)"On Oct. 17 the government will no longer be able to borrow money, and will effectively be in default on its debts, which currently total $16.7 trillion." Inaccurate.

The debt must be addressed. We are mortgaging our children's future and the solution will involve sacrifice. But it is inaccurate to say the government will be in default. The government will only be in default if the president decides not to allocate $20 billion (out of the $200 billion in tax payments coming in each month) to pay the interest. If he wants to solve the problem, he will pay the interest first (like any going business would do)and prioritize the remaining payments to the most important needs. Quite lying, Mr. President. Get to the negotiating table.

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Harleyrider

Oct-08-13 1:42 PM

President Barack Obama called the top Republican in the GOP-controlled House Tuesday, telling Speaker John Boehner once again that he won't negotiate over reopening the government or must-pass legislation to prevent a U.S. default on its obligations. Hmmm seems like this lays squarely at the feet of Obama because he refuses to negotiate. Sorry Mr. President, but that is the way government works.

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Harleyrider

Oct-08-13 2:06 PM

oneill, blab on all you like about the parks. It is a decision that came down straight from the White House and the park employers were told to inflict maximum pain. How you can defend those actions is beyond me. Mount Vernon is PRIVATELY owned and they have done their best to shut it down. The White House has deemed the WWII memorial off limits to veterans but opened the mall to protesters for immigration. It is more than shameful. Amber alert was shut down while Mrs. Obama's signature site remained open. Amber alert was reopened after the press caught that fiasco. It is beyond shameful.

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Harleyrider

Oct-08-13 2:09 PM

oneill, who said this? Was it a terrorist and hostage taker? ""The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a Sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. ...Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here'. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and Grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better."

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Apostrophe

Oct-08-13 2:23 PM

The last time the Republicans did this, it was all because Bill Clinton hurt Newt Gingrich's feelings by making him ride in the back of an airplane. Now, we all know John Boehner is a highly sensitive and emotional man who bursts into tears every time he speaks. Maybe Obama should build Boehner's fragile ego through the offer of a ride on Air Force One. Who knows, it might give the Speaker enough backbone to stand up to Cuban-Canadian Terrorist Ted Cruz.

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Harleyrider

Oct-08-13 2:41 PM

I am beginning to see rumblings of default, The fact is we will only default if Obama chooses to not make the 20 billion interest payment each month on the debt. The government takes in 200 Billion per month.

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oldhickory

Oct-08-13 2:42 PM

but Harley what about the daily 'outgo'?

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oldhickory

Oct-08-13 2:47 PM

Harley what is shameful is that your man in congress can't gather the troops to get an up or down vote for a clean CR

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DevilsAdvocate

Oct-08-13 2:49 PM

Simply amazing! I know there has to be valid reasons to make cut and pasting this difficult. So look and hook the addresses together to get to that great article.

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Harleyrider

Oct-08-13 3:15 PM

oldhickory, people like you never cease to amaze me. I just sit and shake my head at the lack of information. Funny How Cruz sounds a lot like Obama back in the day. Did you call him a terrorist?

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atlas2025

Oct-08-13 4:15 PM

So shutdowns are a Democrat tactic.

Hmmm? Ok!

Then why are the Republicans acting like the Democrats of yore?

Isn't the Right supposed to be the holiest and most honorable of our people?

The problem is that our two party system is failing.

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Harleyrider

Oct-08-13 4:18 PM

atlas2025, I think you miss the point. The point is that the D's have often used this tactic and now cry foul when they get it back. The house holds the purse strings and the D's lost the house in the last election. The will of the people is being done. We can't afford the debt. something has to give.

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Harleyrider

Oct-08-13 4:36 PM

oneill, You really need to learn how to follow along. The idea is to push the individual mandate back. With that said, we need to get a handle on the spending. BTW you never did tell me if the quote was terroristic or not and who it was from.

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Harleyrider

Oct-08-13 4:41 PM

oneill, are you saying the US does not have a debt problem?

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StoneCold

Oct-08-13 5:38 PM

Harleyrider - Look at your approval rating - no one wants to read your dribble!

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oldhickory

Oct-08-13 6:09 PM

Harley, people like me amaze you?????

I have re-read all of my posts and have yet to find where I called Cruz a terrorist. But be absolutely sure that I strongly disagree with the right wing tactics being employed with regard to the shutdown. Further, First the agenda was repeal Obamacare. Next came a one year moratorium. Then came reducing the budget. Now, if I understand correctly, none of that matters as long as "O'bummer" presents a balanced budget as a trade off, one that guts all humanitarian and education programs since they are deemed wasteful spending.

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BeRight

Oct-08-13 6:09 PM

This was an interesting article. Too bad no one is commenting on it. I thought the soap boxes were in the Forum area.

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oldhickory

Oct-08-13 6:12 PM

I would direct this to all those who demand a balanced budget and a reduction in spending. Did you raise your voices to the battle cry when President Bush and Vice President Chaney invaded Iraq? Please reflect upon the question asked. If you answered yes then I have not completely lost respect for you.

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oldhickory

Oct-08-13 6:20 PM

My final post for tonight....a headline in Freakout Nation....

House Republicans voted 42 times to repeal Obamacare. John Boehner won’t bring this one vote to the floor -

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BeRight

Oct-08-13 6:29 PM

oneill: or lack of it.

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BeRight

Oct-08-13 6:31 PM

The shut done does affect real people. But this is not the first one and it will not be the last. Both parties have and will use it as a weapon.

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msam58

Oct-08-13 8:00 PM

Guys at this point Washington has nothing to do with the American people, it is has become a power struggle between Dems and Rep. Think about it.

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luvthesouth

Oct-08-13 9:02 PM

fred...never???? hardly. "When Jackson took office, the national debt was about $58 million. Six years later, it was all gone. Paid off. And the government was actually running a surplus, taking in more money than it was spending." Nature to a vacuum is the same as politicians to zero debt.

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