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Kasich’s school idea sparks reactions

February 12, 2014

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woodworks

Feb-15-14 2:47 PM

Teachers working for the Warren Local schools have NOT had a pay raise in 6 Yes SIX years. They do pay part of insurance costs. If you think four years of college is all it takes then why do most teachers have a masters degree? This is usually 36 hours of graduate credit...price one class oh graduate credit. Because of state requirements...most teachers have been required to take an additional 30 hours. Oh by the way, teachers pay taxes too. Now you want some off the street person to take over. Why does it seem teachers are more concerned for your kids than some of you are? Bullies come in all shapes and sizes I guess.

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Contrarian

Feb-13-14 3:02 PM

Simpletons like O'Neill and Scrappile ought to figure out what Common Core will do to their precious union friends; he should be opposing something that all the elitists like Gates, Walton, Buffett, Kasich and the Bush Family love, but then that would require that they apply some original thought. Ain't gonna happen!

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whatdifferencedoesitmake

Feb-13-14 6:27 AM

It is time to put Washington County "education" into the hands of the local taxpayers, and let the great laboratory of freedom work to find the best value and outcome for us all. My hypothesis is that local control and responsibility would lead to much more emphasis on basics of important real world facts and skill sets, and less "fluff". We would have real Valedictorians again, and diplomas would not be given to students who failed to meet the criteria. Good teachers would be rewarded, and inept or corrupt or immoral teachers would be removed swiftly with no back pay or retirement or reinstatements cajoled by ridiculous lawyers. There would be discipline in the halls and classrooms, or the disrupters would be gone. When the money and control are seen as some ivory tower of power in the distance, local parents and taxpayers are disenfranchised.

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whatdifferencedoesitmake

Feb-13-14 6:17 AM

A good sober parent recognizes when his child is getting a good education. Whether or not it is worth the tax money we all are forced to pay every year to keep from losing our real estate (purchased with money already taxed on April 15th of some previous year!), that is a more complex question.

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scrappile

Feb-12-14 10:28 PM

Andy Thompson is ALEC, please remember this at the polls, wait and see, my eldest daughter went clear through school k-12, waiting and seeing, now grandsons are nearly halfway through and we are still waiting and seeing, now you know kowsh!t is going to sending his to private schools, plus we have parochial schools getting tax dollars, meanwhile us ol' hillbillies are still, waitin and seein, well I've seen enough to know, we are getting the messy end of the stick....

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scrappile

Feb-12-14 10:19 PM

ALEC's Extensive Plans for Education Restructuring in Your State ... ****publicschoolshakedown****/alecs-extensive-plans-for-education-restr... Feb 2, 2014 - ALEC's Extensive Plans for Education Restructuring in Your State ... Schools are funded on a per-pupil rate, the same as public schools

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scrappile

Feb-12-14 10:14 PM

The ALEC influence is certainly paying off for its corporate members and others who have decided to join the ALEC crusade of public education destruction. ALEC’s spectrum of model bills will look familiar to public education faculty and parents nationwide. However, ALEC doesn’t like having the light shined on its manipulations

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scrappile

Feb-12-14 10:14 PM

The ALEC influence is certainly paying off for its corporate members and others who have decided to join the ALEC crusade of public education destruction. ALEC’s spectrum of model bills will look familiar to public education faculty and parents nationwide. However, ALEC doesn’t like having the light shined on its manipulations

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oldhickory

Feb-12-14 9:09 PM

I don't know what it is about common core that has the right so much in arms against it. It is merely a set of standards that are universal to the country's students. That way when someone graduates from high school in say Denver, Colorado, they can get a job at the Wal-Mart in Marietta, Ohio for next to nothing wages and no benefits.

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jacsm1217

Feb-12-14 6:08 PM

Maybe we should be looking at how countries that are ahead of us teach. We certainly are not leaders when it comes to education but are far down on the polls.

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DaveBa

Feb-12-14 5:52 PM

Benefit cost from the 5 year forecast for Warren.

4,444,623 5,370,272 6,295,043 6,827,892 7,455,397 8,236,987

The taxpayers are paying the increase in employees. Where is the extra 4 million dollars going to come from?? I think a salary of $130,000 plus dollars is real good for this area for a 8 month a year job.

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ea333555

Feb-12-14 5:00 PM

things through the years. Their class sizes have almost doubled in the past several years and they have gone without raises. I don’t think “just about everyone else” has taken a pay cut either. I know a lot of people including teachers and myself who have taken pay freezes but no cuts. I think the answer is somewhere else beside the teachers’ benefits “only”. I for one want the best teachers for our children although mine are already through school. The only way to get the best teachers is to stay at a competitive wage. If we don’t have a good school system, then our community as a whole suffers greatly.

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ea333555

Feb-12-14 5:00 PM

I would agree that health care costs are outrageous. I certainly don't want a levy either. The part about teachers not paying any part of their health care is false. They do pay part of it and it goes up every year. The part you don't understand is why the school system pays that much of employees’ health care. Employees could have just taken more money on their checks instead of having it paid on their health care. For someone to say that health benefits are "given" to the teachers is a false statement. Teachers and other administrators work for their wages....which is what the health care is. Of course taxpayers pay the health care and wages also...who do you want to pay for it? I certainly don't know the solution to the problem but to say that the teachers’ health care costs are the problem is just ridiculous. There are some things that I think are unnecessary like having two principals at B-V.....and there are more examples of similar things. Teachers have already given

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DaveBa

Feb-12-14 1:28 PM

ea333555, The 5 year forecast shows Warrens benefits rising over 4 million dollars a year. The teachers wont be paying any of this cost so the taxpayers will be paying that bill in full. I and just about everyone else has taken a pay cut when are health insurance rates have almost tripled. Warren already has 80 seats in the E-Schooling program and more is expected next year. That program don't require a teacher as one is supplied by the E-School. Best thing for Warren to do is vote down the upcoming renewal levy and vote out the current BOE.

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ea333555

Feb-12-14 12:39 PM

Maybe we should just do away with the college requirement to be a teacher and pay them minimum wage. That's obviously how much a lot of people care about children and the future of our country. I don't like to pay any more taxes than the next person but I will put the blame where it belongs....our government.

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ea333555

Feb-12-14 12:33 PM

Teachers do not get free health care DA Dave. It is a part of their wage which was bargained for. So you want them to take a pay cut? Then just say so. But if people don't know what you are talking about, they should keep their mouth shut. I bet DA would cry like a baby if he was asked to take a pay cut. I'm sure that four years of college is about 8 more years of schooling than a certain person who posts on here also.

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Motime

Feb-12-14 11:09 AM

Asknot, you are right! But tell that to tingette and MaryP. Too bad schools have to change curriculums every 4 or 8 years depending upon political agendas.

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DaveBa

Feb-12-14 11:05 AM

Warren’s biggest problem is the out of control benefit package they give the employees. Four years of college shouldn't give you a lifetime of free healthcare. Times have changed, time for a change in the school systems.

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Motime

Feb-12-14 10:40 AM

If the democrats would stop adding welfare preograms, and putting more and more people on those social welfare systems, there would be more dollars available for the schools. It is actually pretty simple, but democrats think money grows on trees.

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rollingstone

Feb-12-14 9:58 AM

its easy to understand the threat that any sort of deregulation might have for all those who benefit from the dysfunctional state of public education.

But for the sake of the kids who are forced to travail this cesspool or the taxpayers who are forced to pay for it, deregualtion is certainly worthy of consideration.

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JoshBrown

Feb-12-14 9:41 AM

Kasich’s is a nut job!

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MaryPoppins

Feb-12-14 9:20 AM

keyboard is as whacky as governor. Hope you can read through the lines.

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MaryPoppins

Feb-12-14 9:18 AM

ka$ick is a dipwad, and he tries to make schools a political football.

Our children do not be passed around nor kicked.

The elected, like andy thompson only follow the lead from the r- Governor. Used a capital g as respect for the position not the person in office.

Fix school funding; leave educators alone. kasick trying to educators what to do is equal to me telling a surgeon how to do open heart surgery. ****. Not funny though.

Give it up republicans; no are not going to gain anything messing with the electorates kids.

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tingette

Feb-12-14 8:27 AM

It is quite obvious, we have elected a couple if nut jobs who have no clue about education and continue their efforts to cut funding, refuse to fix unconstitutional system, and willingly want to screw the kids, teachers, school systems, and tax payers.

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