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Awareness spawns understanding of Muslim students

February 14, 2014

When they first began attending Marietta College, several female Muslim students there said students were standoffish and the community members were at times hostile....

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 6:56 AM

I don't consider people not accepting the full berka to be "ignorant" as the article states. I feel they are a threat to college security. You can't tell who is wearing it (identity is completely concealed, it could be a man for all one knows, and he could be armed) keep pushing the acceptance of it and you'll have criminals of all race and creed wearing them to commit crimes.

I have no problem with the hijab but the berka is a threat to my safety and I don't accept it, you're in America now!.....

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hockeypuck

Feb-14-14 7:02 AM

That outfit must be fun in July and August.

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 7:03 AM

Convenience stores are permitted to ask of all Americans, that customers don't wear hoodies and helmets because they obscure identity. A full berka hides more features than any type of criminal dress and I feel the acceptance of them poses a threat to safety.

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slogoin

Feb-14-14 7:05 AM

Welcome to Marietta.I hope these student blend well with the community.But please understand that the entire landscape in this country has been changed since 9/11,and some folks dont know where to place the blame(certainly arent these students)I have a close Iranian friend who was shunned at work for quite a while.Time did the trick.Not only did I gain a good friend,I learned that people are people when it all gets boiled down.Good luck.

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 7:06 AM

Asknot, what did I prove? I said I had no problem with anything but the full Berka........the clothing....because it makes me feel unsafe, just as a man with a stocking obscuring his identity would.

I have no problem with their religion or the more popular hijab.

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slogoin

Feb-14-14 7:11 AM

Any wagers on how long till postig gets shut down on this article?

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Libertyforall

Feb-14-14 7:16 AM

If a male or female Christian went to their country, and tried to push their beliefs on them, how accepted do you think they would be. If you want tolerance, you must be ready to give it in like kind.

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 7:24 AM

I'm sure it will because people like ask not are the ignorant ones. Why is it no one is allowed to have a thought or opinion unless they are trying to make us accept another way of life?

Why would asknot disagree with the statement that convenience stores place signs stating no hoodies or helmets inside.....and legally get by with it every day? That statement is not a lie, nor is the fact that a full berka conceals more a lie.

Why do you jump so quick to the defense of a foreign student when an American expresses fear about one mode of dress?

Something wrong with this picture.

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slogoin

Feb-14-14 7:30 AM

Tolerance..yea..but someone has to make the first move.Read up on Constantine.How mant of their bretheren were murdered by the "Christians" if they didnt convert.For centuries this world has been mired in the self righteous who feel that they have the right to murder,enslave and instill their own fears into anyone who doesnt feel the same as them.

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bwc511

Feb-14-14 7:44 AM

Too bad people have to act this way. It is certainly is un Christian and un American. My advice - do not take it personally. They run off anything and anyone different than Appalachian here, even their own children.

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 8:04 AM

Asknot, I have not read any article, to date, of anyone wearing a berka and committing a crime in our country, but let the wearing of this "religious" article of clothing become widespread and watch criminals (maybe of no religious denomination at all) start cloaking theirselves in a berka to commit crimes.

As I said, my beliefs are "to each his own", I have no problem with the hijab or the turban or whatever it is the man wears on his head, but when it comes to obscuring identity, I feel it is a personal threat to my security.

Maybe someone of this religion can explain why it seems A OK for most women of this religion to use only the hijab but others must conceal identity.

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RealityInTheMOV

Feb-14-14 8:04 AM

Maybe if Islam wasn't full of savages that want nothing more than to conquer the Western world, people would view these females differently. Possibly, if Islam didn't teach men to rape, torture, disfigure, mutilate, and murder their own wives/daughters/mothers for a sin, then we could be more accepting of their beliefs. Perhaps, if Islam didn't glorify the public execution of homosexuals, there could be a little more understanding. I understand completely why these women were shunned, and it has nothing to do with ignorance. It's because their religion is one that creates fear and intolerance. Spare me with the "they're just like us" BS. The majority of US consider these kind of actions unacceptable.

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RealityInTheMOV

Feb-14-14 8:06 AM

And before you go spouting off that I'm making it up, do your research. I've studied Islamic teachings, and it's there in black and white.

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 8:07 AM

Asknot, your ignorance irritates me. Can you conceal an assault rifle under your mode of dress? You're too ignorant to answer honestly so I will.........NO! A Berka will hide one.

I said nothing about anyone forcing anything on me!! Don't put your ignorant thoughts on me.

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WoodCoVoter

Feb-14-14 8:13 AM

Want to know the Truth? Read the Koran, and then the Bible and then you will know what each Religion stands for. I have, and also have a lot of experience living in their culture. Don’t just accept what somebody tells you. And as for their culture, use all the “tools” that people have today and learn about it. Then.... you can talk intelligently about the facts.

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 8:15 AM

And, although I understand where Reality is coming from, I do not fear the religion. Our country was founded for freedom of religion, but I also believe that meant freedom from differing religious beliefs.

One last time, I don't think it is irrational to consider a TYPE OF CLOTHING, not the religion that uses it, to be a threat to public safety!!!!!

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RealityInTheMOV

Feb-14-14 8:15 AM

Like I said, voter, I have. You cannot dispute what is written in their books.

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RealityInTheMOV

Feb-14-14 8:26 AM

There's a reason we have the Old and New Testaments. Maybe you should read both.

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 8:37 AM

Woodcovoter,

Can you tell me why female reporters/visitors to their country are forced to wear a hijab? Is it because they would not be safe if they do not conform?

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RealityInTheMOV

Feb-14-14 8:46 AM

Actually, if you've actually compared the two, you'd know that the similarities you speak of are actually opposite views of the same figures. You'd also know that there are societal and spiritual changes throughout the time frame that the Bible covers. Thanks for playing.

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slogoin

Feb-14-14 8:49 AM

Old Testament..Mosaic law was NOT intended for the gentiles.Period.States it plainly.This odd mesh between New and Old Testament and confues me.

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KOMBATBOOTS

Feb-14-14 8:52 AM

asknot, Can we get a description of you to give to the police if you commit a crime against us, wearing your carhart jacket? YES........full berka with only eyes partially visible?..... NO

I say ban the Berka, NOT THE FREEDOM OF RELIGION!

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RealityInTheMOV

Feb-14-14 8:52 AM

I agree, confusing and odd. But the Old Testament is necessary to understand many teachings of the New Testament.

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Someguy80

Feb-14-14 9:06 AM

But… banning a Burka is infringing on their FREEDOM OF RELIGION you dink. Just like banning me from wearing my cross around my neck would be infringing on my freedom of religion. Like it or hate it, these young women have the right to wear it, and I am AOK with it. They have all the same right to be here, and worship as they see fit as you or I do, as long as it does not infringe upon our rights… and a piece of clothing does not do that. I have had a chance to meet one of these young ladies, and I have to say she was fantastic. I would be more worried about being harmed by one of my fellow citizens of Marietta than I would her or one of her friends. So chew on that one for awhile.

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FFCadet28

Feb-14-14 9:07 AM

This entire thread just made me very sad... Ignorance is not bliss folks. It's very discouraging that these young ladies have to get their opinion of our community from close minded appalachian hillbillys... The same way they are being judged for some fruit loop extremists that committed acts of terrorism. Get a grip people. Educate yourself!

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