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Some area schools still spank

By Connie Cartmell, ccartmell@mariettatimes.com
POSTED: April 14, 2008

More than 100 nations have banned paddling in schools.

Twenty-nine states in the U.S. have banned paddling. All Ohio Catholic schools and almost 600 public school districts educate children without corporal punishment, according to the Center for Effective Discipline in Columbus.

Legislation passed in 1993 discouraged corporal punishment in schools, and current Ohio law bans it, but allows a local school board to vote to keep it if they go through a number of special procedures.

Today, 13 Ohio counties, including Morgan and Guernsey in southeast Ohio, continue to paddle students.

If a school district does paddle, one requirement is reporting the number of incidents and number of students paddled. Another is involving parents.

“Every parent signs a paper if they don’t want their child paddled,” said Jeff Shaner, president of the Morgan Local School District Board of Education. “The school honors that parent’s wishes.”

Shaner, who has been on the board since 1995, said paddling was a topic of conversation in the district three to five years ago, but the issue hasn’t come before the board in recent years.

“Local feedback is that this is not an issue,” Shaner said. “We’ve gone from hundreds (of paddlings) to 66, the last I heard. Almost all are in the high school and almost none in K-6.”

In the 2006-07 school year, a total of 321 paddling incidents were reported in the 13 Ohio districts which still paddle, carried out on 202 students.

In Morgan Local School District, 36 students were paddled and the total number of paddling incidents reported to the state was 66.

Morgan’s statistics were the highest reported in the state that year.

In East Guernsey Local School District, one student was paddled at school in the 2006-07 school year, according to reports from the Education Management Information System of the Ohio Board of Education, verified through the Center for Effective Discipline.

“I am not opposed to paddling as an option,” Shaner said. “But paddling every day? Absolutely not.”

Paddling is a last resort in the district, he said, and at the bottom of a lengthy list of discipline policies and options, all part of the district’s code of student conduct.

When Shaner was a teacher in the 1980s, he said corporal punishment was often the first discipline option.

“We’re far removed from that today,” he said.

A verbal reprimand, after-school or in-school detentions, Saturday school, assignment to Alternative Education Placement, out-of-school suspension or corporal punishment (swats) are all mentioned as options in the high school’s handbook (which can be viewed online at http://www.mlsd.k12.oh.us'>www.mlsd.k12.oh.us).

“In some instances,” Shaner said, “a student might rather have a ‘swat’ and forget the detention time.”

Former Morgan County teacher Karen Greer of McConnelsville isn’t certain that totally banning paddling from the school district is a good thing.

“I think it needs to be on the books,” she said. “I think there should always be that option—a last resort.”

Early in her teaching career, she did paddle a junior high student once. She had a reputation for being a strict disciplinarian, she said.

“I got physically ill after I did it,” she said. “The student’s mother and I cried on the phone afterward. The parent needs to know what you are doing and why. My principal did most of the paddling.”

Greer remembers that when she was in public school in the 1950s, there was no hesitation to spank in the schools.

“I was a good kid, but one time the person in back of me was pulling my hair and I reached around at the wrong time, the teacher was walking by, and she smacked me in the back with a ruler,” Greer said.

The whack left a large red mark, which she hid from her parents.

“Back then, whatever happened at school happened two times more at home,” Greer said.

Greer, who taught junior high 10 years, has not taught for nine years because of health issues.

“That child today still remembers that I cried about it (the paddling),” she said.
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troyinohio
04-15-08 10:21 PM
THis is stupid. I had three children. I spanked one many times, the other two seldom. Today they are all great young adults. Discipline needs to appropriately address the problem, but balance in love and respect. It was done with my brothers and myself. It worked with my children. Spanking works. Today parents are more prone to neglect than abuse. This is a wacky world.

jibhen
04-14-08 2:51 PM
I never cease to be amazed. We have figures of how many times our children (our future) are spanked (physically assaulted), and yet there is not a single figure representing any criminal being spanked. It would be a violation of his/her rights! Why would anyone hit a child for hitting another child? The only thing this would teach is that its ok to hit if you are an adult, and you can hit if you don't get caught. Many criminals are the products of violent & negligent childhoods. I believe in discipline for a child--just not hitting!

ladynoogs
04-14-08 2:21 PM
why do people assume that no spanking means no discipline??? generally when a kid is out of control they have NO discipline or parenting at all. Discipline does not equal spanking. there are plenty of non-violent methods that work as long as you are consistant and stern with the kids.

Hitting children only teaches them to hit when they dont like something.

Fort Frye and Waterford in Washington county both still have spanking "on the books".

my mother and her sisters, my husband and his siblings were both severly beaten by "men of God" thanks to "spare the rod, spoil the child". Luckily my parents knew the boundries between abuse and "spanking", and i was spanked, but never have considered myself "abused". But i will NEVER spank my children.

As far as the schools are concerned they have NO BUISNESS spanking children. If parents want to spank thats thier buisness as long as it doesnt cross the line into abuse.

BIGDMARSHALL
04-14-08 1:01 PM
Corpral Punishment didnt hurt me. In fact I had a teacher when I was in the 6th grade at Jefferson Elementray School, Back in 1980 or so. His name was Mr Payne. I was always bad. I will admit it. And Paddle my rear end and lit me up. And what did I do. I think it what they called I " BEHAVED " Myself. And also at that same time he explained me why I shouldnt do that. Still to this day his words always stuck with me. Thank you for paddling my rear when I needed it Mr Payne !

Harleyrider
04-14-08 11:30 AM
nadineb, there was no question about Wolf Creek. The fact is that they do paddle, but notice Washington County is not mentioned. As to the rest, the Center for Effective Discipline is indeed a far left leaning organization. Any organization that intends to tell you how to raise your child and what you can and can't do,within reason, is intuding on your rights as a parent.

mariettamark
04-14-08 11:24 AM
smack them all. kids need discipline.

nadineb
04-14-08 10:47 AM
In response to the question on Wofe Creek using paddling, all districts that allow paddling must have a board policy which follows the state law and they must report paddling to the Ohio Department of Education.

The Center for Effective Discipline is among 48 organizations calling for a ban on school corporal punishment. These include the American Academy of Pediatrics OH, the Ohio State Medical Association, the OH PTA, and the Children's Defense Fund OH. Readers can check this long list at ****stophitting**** (discipline in schools). These are not "left-wing" organizations.

PR1959
04-14-08 10:15 AM
Harleyrider, It says there are only 13 counties in ohio that use corporal punishment. Washington is evidently not one of the 13.And I agree TOTALLY with all of your comments!

rabbitman
04-14-08 9:54 AM
Sometimes this is the only way to get some children's atention this is due to Lack of discipline at home some parents just do not care. I went to school in the 1950's we had respect for the ones in charge vand our parent's as well

Harleyrider
04-14-08 9:44 AM
First, I wonder why they are no statistics for Washington County. Wolfe Creek still uses paddling. As a parent you have to sign a release. Second, the Center for Effective Discipline is a far left organization that is committed to outlawing even parents from spanking their children. I personally think that the option of spanking should be on the table. Children today tend to more lacking in respect than those of my generation. I thik that all this hands off approach has added to this problem. If you go to the website for Center for Effective Discipline, you will even see such radical things as a church that is rewriting the Bible so as to omit "Spare the rod and spoil the child".

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