Warren projects deficit in 2012
Closing schools draws criticism from audienceBy Sam Shawver, sshawver @mariettatimes.com
POSTED: May 6, 2008
Fact Box
By the numbers¯ The total number of students in the Warren Local School District has decreased from 2,713 in fiscal 1998 to 2,590 in fiscal 2007.
¯ The per-pupil valuation has grown from $75,013 in fiscal 1998 to $103,398 in fiscal 2007.
¯ State revenue per pupil in fiscal 1998 was $2,229. In fiscal 2007, it was $4,340.
¯ Total expenditure per pupil in fiscal 1998 was $5,257. In fiscal 2007 the total expenditure was $8,402.
¯ The statewide average total expenditure per pupil in fiscal 1998 was $6,225, while the fiscal 2007 statewide average figure was $9,624.
Source: Ohio Department of Education Center for School Finance report
“We’ve been in a deficit spending pattern since fiscal 2004, and the district’s cash balance is decreasing,” he said.
Gibbs made the comments in a report on the school district’s five-year financial forecast during a special public hearing with the Warren Local Board of Education.
He said a declining population that is expected to continue to dwindle over the next decade will exacerbate the problem.
“There’s a misperception that this community is growing, but since the 1980s we’ve had a decrease of almost 300 students,” Gibbs said. “And our incoming kindergarten classes are smaller than our graduating classes of 220 to 225 students.
“Our total revenue per pupil is growing, but not at the same rate as our expenses,” he added. “Last fiscal year, we averaged a little over $8,000 per pupil but our expenditures ran about $8,400 per pupil.”
Gibbs said 26 positions, 23 of them teaching positions, have been reduced over the last three years and the district is making other cost-cutting efforts, but much more is needed.
“We can either increase revenue, decrease expenses or do a little of both,” he said.
The superintendent listed several options the school board could consider to help overcome projected fiscal shortfalls, including cuts in supervisors and administration; reducing high school teachers; reducing elementary specialist positions; reducing all-day, everyday kindergarten across the district; reducing some custodial and maintenance staff; eliminating some support services staff positions; reducing junior high athletic teams; or eliminating transportation for high school students.
But the option of closing Bartlett and/or Cutler elementary schools, which Gibbs said the school board members had asked him to present, brought the greatest reaction from the audience Monday night.
Last month board President Willie Holbert said it’s possible that a vote on closing a school could come during the board’s May 19 meeting, but that would depend on information presented by administrators at that session.
Closing Bartlett Elementary and moving its 92 students to other facilities would save the district an estimated $404,880 a year, according to Gibbs. He said an additional $125,000 savings could be realized if Cutler were also shut down.
Gibbs noted that no classroom teaching positions would be cut if the facilities were closed, but teachers would be moved into other district schools.
“We are a small community; that’s why I love this community and why I know this is where I want my children to go to school,” said Jean Kennedy, a kindergarten aide at Warren Elementary.
“My family and I are distraught about the possible closing of Bartlett and Cutler schools,” she said. “I’m asking you (the school board) to allow 30 more days before making a decision.”
Molly Varner, who lives along Ohio 550 within the school district, said the local economy would be affected by a school closing.
“It would have a definite effect on business in the Bartlett neighborhood,” she said. “The Bartlett school creates a lot of foot traffic in that area.
“Also you may not see growth on paper, but we know there is growth occurring in the western end of the Warren district,” Varner said. “And several of us have formally signed on to help you find solutions to this issue.”
Martin Hansell, who lives on Ohio 676, said his four grandchildren attend school in the Warren district.
“You’re being efficient in operating this school system, but the problem is you’re not getting enough money. This is happening all over the country,” he said. “But this is a business, and it has to operate as a business. If you operate it in deficit, you will definitely go out of business.
“This problem is not going to go away, it will just get worse,” Hansell added. “You need to make a decision that’s equitable to all students.”
Robin Bozian described herself as “the proud mother of three graduates of Cutler and Bartlett elementary schools.
“We are now being told that we are approaching a financial crisis and need to cut costs,” she said in a prepared statement.
“Mr. Gibbs has said there hasn’t been much concern about the reductions to date,” Bozian said. “There is a good reason there hasn’t been much concern. Until this past month, I did not know that the school was in this kind of dire financial straits, and no one informed the public that we were headed down a path that might lead to this kind of drastic action.
“We deserve time to review the facts. We deserve time to give input. We deserve time to explore with the board other alternatives, including additional funding through a levy,” she said. “Thirty to 45 days is simply not enough time for such drastic action.”
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mrsmom
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05-10-08 8:42 PM
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Buckeye Bill, I agree with you on some levels, but still feel there is fat to be trimmed on administrative levels. Also, I wasn't alive in the 1950's, but my Dad attended Bartlett clear through 11th grade and then Warren High School his senior year and was a 1962 graduate of Warren. He talks about the fact that back then Warren district promised if Bartlett joined them they would never close Bartlett school. LOL, I guess just wishful thinking b/c some of the present members of the board can't honor their own promises, let alone promises that were made years ago :P
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BuckeyeBill
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05-08-08 8:35 AM
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I feel sorry for the folks at Warren as I have watched the same thing happen in Belpre and Frontier. I don't think the folks at Warren realize that cuts have been made the past few years, but, you can only cut personnel so far before you have to start in other areas. Closing a building is sad news, but it needs to be done. Enrollement may be low at those schools because parents have their kids bussed to other schools within the district. Remember the schools that closed in the late 1950's to form the current Warren district. The problem is at the state level, not the local level with funding, nobody excepts that. All of Washington County schools are having the same problem as Warren, including Marietta.
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mrsmom
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05-08-08 6:07 AM
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For all kids, I am not trying to punish the other district children by voting no on levies, simply trying to make them spend our money more wisely.
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mrsmom
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05-08-08 6:01 AM
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away money they simply can't afford to give away now. I'm not too worried about the school closing anymore b/c ultimately they're going to do what they think is best and I must live with it. I will allow my children a choice as to which school they attend (BV or online charter) and just move on with it. But I won't vote for levies when they can't handle cuts the way they should. They are all protecting their own at the cost of the children. And as for the differing opinions on other district schools treating Batlett differently, I have seen both good and bad. My children have friends in all other schools too. I think the majority will accept us, but a few won't. Those few have the power to make school-life very hard for our children.
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mrsmom
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05-08-08 5:55 AM
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cs, I did just check and you are correct. I had only compared Bartlett against B-V. I assumed that B-V would have the highest and seen they didn't beat Bartlett, I'm sorry. I wish I had checked more thoroughly now. I don't think any of the other people responding to this story from other schools in the district would feel any differently if it was their school that was being shut down. And to answer the question on the levy, yes I will vote against the future levies if they close Bartlett and my children attend an online charter school. Why should I pay more taxes, when this district mishandles what I already give them? I have that right. I may vote how I choose. The cuts should be deeper at the top. Why does this district need an assistant to Mr. Gibbs? If they are willing to cut children instead of themselves, then I won't willingly give them more money. I know that truly the blame should be placed even above them b/c the governments are (state and federal) are giving
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emt216
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05-08-08 12:18 AM
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Warriorhearted-redheaded stepchildren...not the children...the schools. of course are children are equals. thank you for knowing that. you make me happy to think you feel as such, considering it looks like our kids will join as one soon. i really hope others feel the same.
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cs01501
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05-07-08 2:39 PM
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Mrs. Mom, I do not want to take anything away from Bartlett's scores, but I just checked Bartlett's scores against Little Hocking Schools. On the 2006-207 tests, Little Hocking had higher scores than Bartlett at all levels except the eighth grade. Bartlett did well, but let's cite the facts correctly.
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Warriorhearted
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05-07-08 2:25 PM
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This is not intentionally being done to you - or to Bartlett and Cutler. It is the best financial decision for the distric as a whole. And while it feels personal because you have ties there, it isn't. Yes, other ideas should be considered, and they are, yes the district should take all the cuts possible, and they are. Yes the the top guns should take the hit along with the rest of us. - make sure they do. And again. search out how we got here - find out where the responsibility lies so we can not repeat the problems and build our district back from this precipice we are on. If we all work together we can rebuild Warren Local to a district that everyone will flock to. Put you energy into that. You have the potential to do great things with your anger - go for it!
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Warriorhearted
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05-07-08 2:21 PM
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Redheaded step child? I have seen the jr ji Bartlett kids with all the other schools jr hi in band, sports and other events. They blend right in, they fit right in. Ask them. They have friends in the other schools. My own child has friends at Bartlett and Little Warren and at Little Hocking. When they hit high school it doesn't seem to matter any more at all - to them - but maybe it matters to parents with an inferiority complex. Your children are no different than mine. They know it, wish you did. Please dont let this turmoil turn you one against the other. We are all better than that. We are all a mini communities inside a larger one. We all come together at the high school level. We are all WARRIORS. Please teach your child that they are all considered equal by teachers and staff. Bartlett children are only as disadvantage as their parents tell them they are.I know many of them well,they are terrific kids,just as terrific as the ones I know at BV,LH,WE. We all know that.Wish you di
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emt216
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05-07-08 12:34 PM
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at this point i accept defeat. i will send my kids where the board tells me to, but i will not agree with the decision. i am still convinced that this is a scare tactic and we will be seeing a new levy on the ballot shortly after they tell us we can keep bartlett school for one more year. that is my prediction. problem is the levy won't pass because the district parents seem tickled pink at the idea of getting rid of the red-headed step children bartlett and cutler.
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forallkids
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05-07-08 8:07 AM
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So am I understanding correctly, because I don't think you mean it this way. If they hurt my child, I am going to punish all the other children in the district by not voting for a levy.
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mrsmom
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05-07-08 6:52 AM
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if it was there school on the chopping block and their children sad and upset? Our children don't want to be uprooted and I, for one, won't allow it. I may not be able to stop them from closing their school, but I certainly don't have to keep my children and their funding in this district. They keep saying that the reason they want to close Bartlett over the other schools is the fact that there is so much overhead b/c of it being small, but if we pull the students back here that should be attending, the overhead would be a lot less. Bartlett & Cutler have always been treated like the black sheep of the Warren district family even though our test scores are the best in the district. If anyone wants to dispute this I recommend looking at each individual school report card. The other schools do well too, but I am so tired of hearing that Bartlett/Cutler kids are at a disadvantage when this simply isn't true.
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mrsmom
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05-07-08 6:46 AM
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Mr. Gibbs has done what he set out to do-divide us as a district. Now he will close Bartlett, which school will he set his sights on next? He has threatened the other schools with the fear of the state taking over the district if Bartlett isn't closed. I agree that they need to tighten the belt, but I think the trimming should start at the top with the administration. The closing of Bartlett school will ensure that no future levies put on the ballots will be passed. I have personally voted for every levy that's came up since I began voting, but if Bartlett is closed, will vote against all of the future levies for Warren district. I will allow my children to attend an online charter school and this will pull at least 3 children's funding from this district and there are many other parents talking about doing the same or moving their children into other districts. All of the other district parents keep saying "Keep your emotions out of it", but would they be able to do
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howdydoodee
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05-07-08 5:48 AM
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Buckyes1 actually open enrollment brings money into the district, it's an income, not a cost. Everybody keeps focusing on bartlett/cutler, nobody is focusing on the top heavy district administration. Twenty six jobs in the past three years and only three were non-teaching? Was a single one of those in the district office? How about Mr. Gibbs' raises? I know funding is always an issue, but it doesn't seem as though the funding is quite as much of an issue as fiscal mismanagement....
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Johanna
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05-06-08 11:55 PM
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Where was the warning that there was such financial devastation? People come together in a crisis situation though they do better with a bit of warning! Transportation issue? I csn only imagine what that will do to working Parents, esp. single working Parents. What do you suggest for Nurses whose shifts start at 7 am? How do their children get to school and who cares for them from 7-9am?
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TheShadow
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05-06-08 9:42 PM
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It's all Bush's fault.
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MartyMarachino
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05-06-08 8:13 PM
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If everyone wants to save their tiny schools, they need to vote for a nice fat levy to pay for them or make financial contributions. Warren already spends less per student than the state average and they are trying to do their part to economize. These little schools are largely open because of sentimental "value" to their parents who often went to the same school. Get over it or pony up. They need to merge Fort Frye and Waterford first and get rid of Lawrence! The little schools combined only include a few students but the families of those few want us all to pay.
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blueandwhite
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05-06-08 5:51 PM
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Buckyes1 at the 2 past meetings Mr. Gibbs said there is no law saying the district has to provide transportation for the high school..I would rather see redistricting so all remaining schools (3) are equal with students so the over crowding is lowered and it is a district problem so why not have everyone in the district work at fixing the problem and not just the 2 small schools that did not cause the problem all by themselves...We stand as Warren district and we should fix the problems as a Warren district...(which is all 6 schools)
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Warriorhearted
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05-06-08 4:31 PM
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This is a sad thing for Warren Local. As it has been sad for other school districts that are our neighbors. We are in the downward spiral and now what must be done must be done. While it may seem unfair to close one or two of the smaller schools the facts are clear that it must be done. Having said that - shouldn't we be looking to the real problem and fix that. Legislature is the problem. If the community of Bartlett really wants to be heard and make a difference then write your representatives, gather information on school funding issues that have created this mess and let them know you want it fixed! Maybe someday they will build a new Bartlett Elementary if the problem is addressed at the state level. Our Board and Supt. didn't do this - our state legislature did. Aim your words in the right direction and make a difference! My hearts bleed for all of you that are losing something so close to your hearts, but please, step out in your anger and make your voices count in government.
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Buckyes1
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05-06-08 3:47 PM
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How can you eliminate bus transportation for the high school...c'mon. how about closing open enrollment.
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