Local reactions to Obama speech
By Kate York, kyork@mariettatimes.comFact Box
Health care forum
- What: "Not the Politics, Just the Facts" Health Care Reform Forum.
- When: 7 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 23.
- Where: Graham Auditorium, Washington State Community College.
- Who: Sponsored by the Marietta-Washington County League of Women Voters; panel includes Scott Cantley, president and CEO of the Memorial Health System; Eleanor Pearlman, health advocate for the Ohio League of Women Voters; and Ann Nelson, wellness and prevention advocate for the Ohio League of Women Voters.
- For more information: Caroline Putnam, 373-4510.
Much like the members of Congress listening to President Barack Obama's address on health care reform in person Wednesday night, the head of the area's largest health care system had some mixed reactions to what was outlined.
Scott Cantley, president and CEO of the Memorial Health System, said after Wednesday's speech that he was pleased with much of what he heard but also concerned by some, mostly the way Obama laid out funding of the reform.
"It's tough to say that you can pay for an entire system of reform and all this extension of coverage by getting rid of the waste in the current system," he said. "A lot of providers are concerned about that. I don't see a lot of that day-to-day waste. I think most providers right now feel they're working harder than ever before."
Cantley said he encourages everyone to stay open-minded until the details of the plan can be ironed out. There absolutely needs to be reform, he said.
"It's hard to disagree with the general premise - this country does need health care reform," he said. "The current path is unsustainable. It's the specifics of how to modify it that scare people."
Barbara Brockmeier, 81, of Marietta, said she hoped Obama's address helped to calm some fears.
"I think what he had to say should have clarified things for people on the fence, who didn't understand it or how to pay for it," she said. "I didn't have that many questions, but the ones I had, he answered. But I'm sure there are still some hard-nosed people that regardless of what he says, he can't win over."
John Simpson, 60, of Vincent, said he can be considered one of those not won over by the speech.
"I don't think he said anything very different," he said. "He stuck with his same ideas that people have been trying to tell him they don't want. He didn't back off from the public option at all."
Obama said a government-run public option would be one of many options for citizens. He also stressed that those who already have insurance won't be forced to change anything.
Simpson said he still can't get behind the reform.
"I don't want the government controlling things that much," he said. "I think it's a bad road to go down."
Lifelong Democrat Robin Wernecke, of Marietta, said she hoped everyone took the time to listen to Obama Wednesday and realize how desperately a change is needed.
"The important part of this is for people to realize that it can happen to anyone on any given day - you can lose your health insurance," she said. "This is a bill for Americans, not just Democrats."
Wernecke said she was pleased to see Obama detail a plan that wouldn't allow insurance companies to drop those with pre-existing conditions and aims to lower costs for consumers. She said it was important that the president addressed some misconceptions about the plan as well.
"I hope it does really calm the fears of people who have been lied to about this plan," Wernecke said. "I thought it was wonderful."
Sharon Russell, 42, of Lowell, said she was startled to hear Obama say that at least basic health insurance would be required of all Americans, similar to car insurance. Hardship waivers would be granted, however, said the president.
"I'm not sure how I feel about that," said Russell. "People can choose not to drive, but you can't choose not to be a person with a body and health issues. It's not quite the same thing."
The president also didn't do enough to bring Republican ideas into the mix, she said.
"He threw out a few things but it was more like he was just throwing us a bone," Russell said.
Cantley said he was pleased to hear Obama mention one Republican-backed idea: Malpractice reform.
"That's been so absent from every discussion, so I was very pleased with that," he said. "I think it was really a nod toward trying to be bipartisan. And if you truly want to change the system we have, you have to get at the heart at how care is delivered in a very defensive way by many based on the medical malpractice environment we have in this country. I hope that was sincere and I thought it was very significant."
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09-11-09 5:38 AM
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It's all about trust. The O-thority and his dems have lost it with us, one crisis and czar and 1,000 page bill and lesson plan and slick speech after another. I am reminded why I stopped being curious about these comment strings. Light on facts and reason and real history, heavy on personal attacks and cheap argument tactics (Well, why don't you blame George Bush for _____) Devote this self-righteous hate energy to actually reading "the bills" for a change, and then effectively protest the troubles you can document.
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weefooze
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09-10-09 10:52 PM
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The only thing that politicians fix is elections.Congress fix health care? Give me a break! This is pure socialism. Those who have, will pay for those who have not. If you take it from those who have it, why work? Why try to get ahead. Congress wants to force small business owners to pay for insurance for their employees. These employers will respond by closing their businesses or cut the number of employees so they can pay for it. Why pick on the only businesses that we have left? Must they move to a foreign country also? Every president since Ronald Reagan has promised that new programs will be paid for by cost savings and every year the deficit has exploded. Why? Because they all lie. You can NOT get something for nothing. The money must come from some place.Guess who has it (Retirees and people who work)and guess who wants it?(BIG GOVERNMENT)
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eccentric506
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09-10-09 8:43 PM
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It seemed to take forever to read the 1018 pages of HR3200 but it the scariest piece of lagislation ever offered to the publick. Healthcare costs need to be reformed--they are skyrocketing way out of reach even when you do have insurance. That being said regardless of what rhetoric the president has to say-- im willing to bet he hasnt read it--- if he did he is lying through his teeth about what it has in it
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flabuckeye
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09-10-09 8:11 PM
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As for Acorn, Paul Newman was registered just down the road. Don't know if that made the "TIMES." And that is the bunch that will do the census. LOL You can take that as Lots of Luck or Laughing Out Loud.
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flabuckeye
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09-10-09 7:51 PM
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Some time ago the Supreme Court said that if the law did not say "No" it was within the purview of the "regulator" to O.K. items while writing the fine points of the law. So if 3200 were to become the law, then the Czar could legalize anyone. But that would not be required for a public option. The people of California passed a law to stop illegals from free health care. Two lower courts said that was not lawful and then the Supreme Court refused to hear it. If you are here, you will be covered. And you think the Pres doesn't know that?
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Roscoe
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09-10-09 7:27 PM
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Today a vote was taken on the nomination of Cass Sunstein. He was appointed as the Regulatory "czar." Voinovich & Brown voted "Yea." Now folks - how many of you knew this was happening? How many of you know anything about Cass Sunstien? I strongly recommend that you do your homework on Mr. Sunstein. You will not like what you find.
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Roscoe
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09-10-09 7:23 PM
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Meanwhile, while everyone was distracted with the upcoming speech last night & health care reform, the Senate held a cloture vote on the nomination of Cass Sunstein as the Regulatory "czar." The vote passed, 63 to 35. George Voinovich & Sherrod Brown voted "yeah" on that vote. This vote forces the confirmation vote.
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bobber21
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09-10-09 6:21 PM
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k rocker..but those occasional libs sure don't equal the full-time hard line right-wingers as you claimed. I could wrack my brain and come up with as many conservatives on CNN or MSNBC, but it just isn't that important of an issue.
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rocker
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09-10-09 5:54 PM
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Section 225(A) grants Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius tremendous discretionary authority to regulate health-care workers "under the public health insurance option." Monopoly bargaining and compulsory union dues may quickly become a required standard resulting in potentially hundreds of thousands of doctors and nurses across the country being forced into unions". Why is this in the bill? Can someone explain?
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rocker
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09-10-09 5:40 PM
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Bob Beckel is another liberal always on FOX. How about Geraldine Ferraro? Dennis Kunicich?
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rocker
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09-10-09 5:38 PM
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bobber21, Combs is still on FOX. I just saw him on there 2 nites ago and he also has a radio show on FOX Radio.
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ProudWashCoRes
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09-10-09 5:31 PM
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bb21 - they didn't have the conservative votes. Not all the "Republicans" at the time were conservative, neither are they now. Heck, Voinovich and Dewine were only Repub in label, not in deeds. I would call them Republicrats.
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bobber21
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09-10-09 5:13 PM
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To ProudWashCo: if tort reform is so important to the Republicans, why didn't they legislate the reform themselves in the 6 years they had total control of Congress and the White House?
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bobber21
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09-10-09 5:11 PM
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I have an idea: Why don't all the conservative members of Congress that oppose government managed health-care give up their medicare or government insurance? Both are government managed plans.
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bobber21
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09-10-09 5:06 PM
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Allen combs is no longer on Fox. I'm sure he got sick of Hannity's pompousness. Now you're down to one...does it still equal the conservative contributors? Besides, those liberal networks also have conservative contributors. MSNBC even has a conservative as the main host..Joe Scourbough.
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ProudWashCoRes
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09-10-09 4:47 PM
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Good point Focus. Here's an idea I have said before: Why not just make Medicare available to the uninsured? Broaden the qualifications, legislate tort reform and take away pre-existing condition exemptions, allow cross state line purchasing for insurance. Republicans should propose this to watch the Dems back away from it faster than Usain Bolt runs. Then the Repubs take away several Demos myths: 1. They only want to cover the uninsured 2. They only want competition 3. They don't want single payer option (government run health care) 4. They will listen to any ideas This idea accomplishes several goals they state, but fails to accomplish the main, unstated goal, which is eventual government run health care. If medicare cannot lower costs, why would the government option or co-op lower costs. Whatever reasons are presented that allow the government option or co-op to lower costs should apply to a medicare program that allows the uninsured to join.
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Letsstayfocused
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09-10-09 4:24 PM
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Maybe we should start with one thing that everyone agrees on and the govt admits is going on. Medicare fraud. If they know it's going on and they think they can fix it. Then put a bill together and fix it. Don't tact on a bunch of extra stuff for people (Dem. and Rep.) to fight over. Let's fix this one problem now.
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rocker
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09-10-09 4:23 PM
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Obama has lied and here is an example. Before the election he stated: "I will not raise taxes on anyone under $200,00 income". THen he goes and raises taxes on tobacco products which hurts a lot of poor people that use these products.
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sheridan1
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09-10-09 4:10 PM
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The bottom line Obama is a liar when it comes to healthcare he is trying to make it easy for illegal immigration to this country and before you people start spouting off about racism etc.etc. I live in the middle of the frontline of illegal immigration and the border drug wars AND i know all about illegal ids in fact they just busted a FOOL down the road making illegal id's the reason "health care" every country needs to take care of its own if they can't then THEIR people need to make the change instead of making the American taxpayers pay for their medical problems, this country has enough of its own problems to deal with.without having to take care of people who take advantage of the messed up American Healthcare system.
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rocker
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09-10-09 4:09 PM
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Parrothead - You are just another FAUX NEWS Zombie - Legally brain dead, but still mobile. Asknot, it wasnt me that started the name calling in here, it was Parrothead. Why didn't you ridicule him when he called me a name?
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asknot
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09-10-09 3:59 PM
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See rocker there you go, oxygen deprived at birth? Really, is that necessary. Sometimes the smartest thing a person can say is nothing.
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asknot
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09-10-09 3:57 PM
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Universal healthcare for every citizen, irrespective of your resources, is representative of a deeply moral society. – Bill Moyers No I don't believe the plan will not raise the deficit 1 dime, but I do believe alot of Americans are in need of this, for both their health and their pocketbook. I also believe that this has been a debate for 16+ years and that it is still not done. I also believe that if we are waiting for a consensus of rep's and dem's to agree, then it will never get done. This is a huge monkey on alot of Americans back, and its only getting worse. While this plan is not perfect, what is? Does anyone really know the perfect solution? i highly doubt it, but what's going on in this country is not it. And yes, i know what you said about being independent, but those that disagree with you are always wrong and drinking the kool-aid. Maybe, just maybe, you can be wrong too.
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rocker
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09-10-09 3:56 PM
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Parrothead, I just again stated my political affiliations. I'm beginning to wonder if you were oxygen deprived at birth or something. JEEZZ!
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rocker
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09-10-09 3:51 PM
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asknot (hangs head against the wall) I just stated I'm INDEPENDENT but I'm also fiscally conservative and liberal on some issues. Hey I like Ron Paul he has some great Ideas. I'm always receptive to others ideas but this health plan of over 1000 pages is ridiculous and must not become law. Do people on here really believe Obamas plan will not raise the deficit by one dime?
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Parrothead
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09-10-09 3:45 PM
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Rocker – both sides? By that do you mean the “right” and the “extreme right”?
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