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Local reaction to Ohio casino vote

By Justin McIntosh, jmcintosh@mariettatimes.com
POSTED: November 5, 2009

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Washington County residents might have turned down state Issue 3 by more than 3,000 votes but it wasn't nearly enough to keep Ohio from allowing casinos to be built in four of its biggest cities.

David Abbott, 59, of 7126 State Route 550, Cutler, was one of those area residents who voted against the issue.

"I was somewhat surprised (it passed)," he said. "It was close the last time (it was on the ballot), but they've really been pumping the ads on TV to pass this."

The Ohio Jobs & Growth Committee campaign topped 2008's $40 million in presidential campaign spending in the Buckeye State. The pro-casino campaign spent an average of $21 for every yes vote, the Associated Press reported.

Abbott was against the measure because it wouldn't add the types of jobs he believes the state needs - production - and would only contribute to gambling problems to other issues Ohio's already struggling with.

Janet Stanley, 63, of 1511 Boulevard Drive, Belpre, also held similar gambling concerns.

"I just think that it is going to create more problems than the good they think it's going to do," she said. "I was a little surprised (it passed), but given the economy, I guess people were thinking jobs and things like that."

Regina Devol, 52, of 510 Cutler St., Apt. 3, said she voted for the issue because of jobs.

"If it's going to put people to work, yeah," she said. "With the economy the way it is, people need work."

The Columbus site alone is expected to employ 2,000 people in a 300,000-square-foot casino.

TruthPAC, backed by MTR Gaming Inc. Chairman Jeffrey Jacobs, said the jobs numbers were exaggerated, though.

U.S. Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, vowed to "be their conscience" and hold casino operators to their job promises. He predicted casinos would take a particularly heavy toll on Cleveland, a national poverty leader and a city where he was once mayor.

"I am terribly disappointed," Voinovich said in a statement. "As a result of the passage of Issue 3, there will be a great deal of pain and suffering in Ohio. I feel for the families of those who will experience casinos for the first time in their lives and, once lured in, will become addicted to gambling."

KeyBanc's Dennis Forst said economic benefits of Ohio casinos will be mixed.

"It'll certainly help Ohio's economy, through the tax dollars and the jobs and keeping the money in the borders of the state," Forst said. "On a regional basis, I'm not sure it does anything at all, because whatever is gained by Ohio is potentially lost to Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania and West Virginia."

Marry Rice, 77, of Marietta, voted against the measure for the same reasons Abbott and Stanley did.

Rice, though, was also concerned about where some of the money generated from the gaming would go.

"I wasn't sure where the money's going to go, or just how it was going to be processed," she said.

The Jobs and Growth Committee Web site says the majority of revenue from taxes on the casinos will be divided among Ohio's 88 counties and the school districts therein. Projections on the site say Washington County would receive more than $3 million a year.

Linda Etter, 58, of 118 Woodland Ave., Marietta, said she was upset when she learned the issue passed.

"Just like the lottery, it never did help the schools. I don't think this is going to help anybody in the long run," she said. "It's just another problem, another addiction. We already have too many addictions in this world."

The Associated Press contributed.

 
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hockeypuck
11-06-09 4:58 PM
Parrothead, there you go again believing what the other side has said. The Pittsburg casino is not a Vegas style casino. They blew it, ok? Just as you have asked in the past, give it a chance.

CluelessOH
11-06-09 11:43 AM
PWC032096 WTAP I just read it this morning.

Tessie
11-06-09 9:59 AM
My introduction to gambling was in Steubenville, OH in an illegal casino. The passage of the bill does not mean gambling addicts will spring up everywhere. They're already here and they spend their money in surrounding states legal casinos and in Ohio's underground gambling. I later lived in NV and worked in casinos many years. I made a good living & had a nice life. I knew very few locals gambling addicts, but a number who lived elsewhere, including OH. Would you rather they spend the money elsewhere, or would you rather they spend it here, creating jobs along the way. When I lived in NV, 1 in 5 jobs were direct hotel/casino related; two in five were peripherally related to those casino employees. Everything from dentists to construction workers who were employed as a result of the casinos existence. At the last minute I changed my vote to yes, & only initially opposed b/c of the constitutional amendment issue. It really will be OK people.

deerwatcher
11-06-09 8:34 AM
Hey, clueless, that is fair. Look at other states with these casino. If you are going to balance the budget this is how you get it.

deerwatcher
11-06-09 8:29 AM
Again we are letting the welfare centers of the state running the state! They take are money and give it to them! I am sick of it! Can't wait to move to a better state.

PWC032096
11-06-09 7:21 AM
CluelessOH - got a link to that info?

CluelessOH
11-06-09 6:05 AM
I just read that the Republicans want to raise the taxes from 33% to 66% on Casino's already. I thought that Republicans didn't raise taxes? I guess that greed has taken over and they want more of the pie.

JohnG1
11-05-09 11:18 PM
My opinion is we are already getting damaging effects from gambling addiction and no revenue. In Akron, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton and Cinci casinos provide free buses for transportation to gambling. The money leaves the state. I believe the state government will benefit most from this because they will simply cut funding to local governments and education by the amount paid by the casino.

armybrat
11-05-09 10:20 PM
Personally, I don't care where a person chooses to go to gamble and as for those that get addicted, I don't see where my tax money should be used to pay for a chosen addiction. I place gambling addiction with alcohol and drug addiction. No one forces a person to choose any type of addiction.

citizencane
11-05-09 7:46 PM
Armybrat- Okay, if you insist on making this issue all about the addiction (or your lack of understanding of addiction) answer a few questions-- When a person needs therapy for addiction and his/her insurance doesn't cover it, who foots the bill for community health services? When their addiction costs them a job, where does the unemployment/welfare, etc. come from? When they choose to pay for an addiction instead of buying necessities for their family, who pays for the agencies that will have to provide? It's the rest of us! If you feel the need to go spend your 20.00 gambling, feel free--it's not my business to tell you how to spend your money. But voting to amend the constitution in this way is not the answer. Yep, they have seedy little "Perk" businesses across the river, too--do you suggest Marietta add those to its historic downtown?

armybrat
11-05-09 7:23 PM
May as well keep the gambling money in Ohio. If a person wants to gamble now, all they have to do is go across the river. A person choses to have an addiction, it is not forced on them. If a person does develop an addiction, they can get help to get over the addiction. I like to gamble, I take $20.00 and if I lose that, I stop. Addiction is not an illness, it is a choice!

rocker
11-05-09 6:17 PM
CluelessOH, I'm Independent, not Republican, so I can't tell you when a Republican has paid to play. But both parties are guilty of pushing off the bill on the next generation. A good example of the Demokrauts pushing off the bill on the next generation is Medicare and Social Security. And now their govt. run health care.

CluelessOH
11-05-09 3:04 PM
rocker 11-05-09 10:52 AM »Report Abuse Like pwc says "whatever happened to personal responsibility?". So the issue of people spending away their money in casinos is a non-issue. You will always have some people that get addicted to anything. My philosophy is If you can't pay don't play!

Rocker... When has a republican paid to play? They play and put the bill off on the next generation. Or at least that is what they have done in the past.

PWC032096
11-05-09 2:28 PM
andthatsthewayitwas - Well, I think that's where most folks around here come to an impasse. There are those who argue that Marietta should conserve its small town charm and keep it as it is. Others would like to see growth, just not in their back yards. The third group doesn't care either way and simply move away.

andthatsthewayitwas
11-05-09 2:19 PM
We have 3 superior modes of travel (Interstate, Waterway, Railline)that should and could be used to develop the Marietta area into a hub of business...this will not happen until we, as a community, stop citing our "belief that such and such occurs" or the "So and so is a big dog and won't let anybody else in with him and buddies". We, as a community, need to push our leaders and OURSELVES to do better and to stop blaming everybody else around us for our misfortunes. Stick to the facts that are derived from true data and as I like to say, "become informed before you become opinionated". Regards

citizencane
11-05-09 2:13 PM
armybrat, if you think this is all about whether or not gambling is bad or addicting, you haven't read most of these posts. Try looking at it with a broader view.

PWC032096
11-05-09 2:10 PM
Indian - what's there to research? Marietta's downfall is the clinging to an industrial mindset that little or no hope for the future.

Indian
11-05-09 2:04 PM
Why doesn't someone research the downfall of Marietta, Ohio?

armybrat
11-05-09 2:03 PM
I am glad the casino vote passed. Enough of this whining about gambling being addictive. Watching TV is addictive to some people, but you don't hear of TV addiction groups, not yet anyway. Glad it passed.

PWC032096
11-05-09 2:03 PM
I found the Wall Street Journal article you referred to. Excellent piece. Hope the following link goes thru ok....

h--p://online wsj com/article/SB10001424052748704224004574487800279559762 html?mod=googlenews_wsj

PWC032096
11-05-09 1:57 PM
Not finding much....just commentary, and nothing backed up with concrete numbers. Still looking though.

citizencane
11-05-09 1:54 PM
PWC- Okay, sorry---I'd be interested to see what you come up with.

PWC032096
11-05-09 1:52 PM
citizencane - I never said you did. I'm merely trying to research whether or not casinos contributed to Detroit's downfall or if it helped to stabilize it from further downfall.

citizencane
11-05-09 1:49 PM
PWC- I did NOT claim casinos were Detroit's downfall. I merely researched the profile info on Detroit, and found the crime rate, population loss, and median household income, and the numbers are very depressing. My point was that Detroit in general doesn't seem BETTER for the casinos. Now, I realize that reading Wall Street, and other reports, the casinos have created jobs and pumped money into the local economy. Jobless people have found jobs. But would we rather have stable manufacturing/technology/health/retail jobs, or would we rather have casinos? Casinos aren't going to have an infinitely-increasing customer base. The more we build, the fewer customers for each casino. If Toledo residents weren't interested in going to Detroit, they're not going to flock to a casino just because it's in Ohio. And I will NEVER believe in the 34,000 jobs number, let alone fairly awarded construction contracts.

PWC032096
11-05-09 1:43 PM
WV can keep em too.

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