and ebt starts rolling. those that can and don't work soak up the resources for those that really need it. join me and support getting the "cans but won't" off their collective bottoms and direct the money to those with real needs.
good morning asknot. i am not sure of your question...now as far as "can and won't". since i could not find any hard statistics, a guesstamationon my part would be ay minimum 30-40% range. having a working knowlege of folks living in section 8 housing gave me a fairly good insight into some of the thought processes that many base their day to day lives on. the one prevailing line of thought involves the cost of daycare verses collecting government subsistance and staying in their section 8 subsidized home. you also have the problem of unemployed adult age children that live in the housing and collect government monies. as much as i would like to float on the fluffy cloud in the liberal-land of pity and success-guilt, i face the hard facts that there exist people that have garnered enough mathematical ability to figure out that the monies they would earn by being dumb-as-dirt can be had with little or no effort by filling out a form that says help me and voila....the checks a
would prefer to have others provide their existence rather than themselves. i also agreed and understand that there are those that can never provide for themselves and i have zero problem providing. even in your compassionate mind you will have to agree that there are many people that rise above adverse beginning to accomplish wonderful things. one must be willing to rise above.
moderation, unfortunately the world as we know it operates off of a balance sheet. the question is do we perpetuate a problem or do we correct a problem. it occurs to me that the financial support through direct and indirect payments are not producing the desired results. as long as we continue to reward the crippling of efforts to effectively educate our youth and eventual adults, we will realize the same failures over and over again. you do not have to have riches to succeed in our society. most folks have taken advantage of what we as a society have to offer and have made appreciable contributions. let me repeat in case you missed the gist of my criticsm..."the rub comes in where folks can and won't provide for themselves". the key words are "can" and "won't". we have provided for the relatively free education of all citzens for 12 years and heavily subsidized higher education and yet we still have TOO MANY that decided for whatever reason that they wo
Good morning lts- Sure. You may ask.Not all children begin their lives under equal circumstances. Generally speaking, imo,your balance sheet approach to every socially sensitive economic situation has only a balance sheet remedy.A 'cut 'em off at the knees' approach,that is good enough for for "dumb as dirt" ers. Children, of course grow into adults,but they don't always mature equally for many reasons.Let's take care of them all.
asknot...what is that rascal up too?
good evening moderation. in this uncertain day and time i must inquire as to the end game of the personal information you seek.
good morning lts- would it an accurate assumption for me to believe that as a child,you experienced a relatively safe,stable and nurturing relationship with your adult caregivers? ....and that social and educational exposures were given a prominent role in your development,as well? Just asking.
moderation...sounds like you made a solid investment! :-) glad you got a chuckle out of the ADT reference. i really hate giving away free promos...but that one was just too good to pass up.
lts-I had to laugh at the adt reference ! I was cutting a little patch of timber some years ago and had to hire a couple of brothers from a poor local family to keep the whole family from stealing my fuel and batteries.(-;
to you as well.
vodka this early?????
i'll accept absolute. tell you what. when i see an appreciable change in the number of people that i find absolute in their lack of initiative under our current system, then i will modify ny stance and lessen my absolute stance. until then... the truth is absolute.
lts- I am aware that you have on a number of occasions, admitted that there had been a change in your perception of circumstances and events. Your points are convincing, but I find them too absolute.(-:
* as dumb as dirt
as dirt then be prepared and thankful to work more than one job if necessary. there are many folks that do and are grateful for the opportunity. i have long felt that welfare was nothing more than Governemnt provided " ADT Home Security". something we give folks to keep them from breaking into our homes while we are working to provide them with the means to exist. i have not seen the contrary yet.
good morning moderation. i trust you are well. it is encouraging to see that you recognize the abuse that our legislated charities endure. i do realize that there are many in our society that simply can't provide for themselves. i think you will agree that the charitable nature of the average american doesn't mind seeing their tax dollars provide for those americans. the rub comes in where folks can and won't provide for themselves but utilize the benefits to justify their total existence. on a more pitiful are the politicians that rally behind the same people and pander to their abuse of the system by convincing and reaffirming their positon as a victim in our society. as long as our representatives allow the waste of tax dollars, the borrowing of monies and the irresponsible printing of money, we will have a rather large govenment enslaved segment of the population. the same iniative that the folks used to gain the benifits should be re-directed into gainful employment. if you are a
sorry for the obvious spelling errors.
asknot, once she was identified as being a consul from india they should have handled the case much differently. it also seems that hey made the arrest at the courthouse and should have already have known who and what position she held along with her diplomatic rights. from reading the article by CNN, india referred to her treatment as "barbaric". i am stunned in that i wounder if they have ever ventured outside of their domed palatial governmental buildings to see the squalor in which the lowest of their society reside. i used to visit a webcam that was streaming live video from a village in India. pretty nasty. their reaction was a little over the top, but in some ways i am envious that they "nip it in the bud" so to speak.
Good morning,lts-to just boil it down, I do agree,generally, that our assistance programs can often prove to be spawning pools for sophisticated ,lifetime,welfare addicted living/careers.I think 'throwing fewer bones' is only a part of a solution.
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