Fluffy you are a complete moron who clearly has no idea what uou are talking about, But u know that already
No the rules dont change very often , the viability and cost is what changes . Yup you 2 brainiacs are way more informed than anyone else !And scrubber technology is a thing of past decades !
Yep Beright, and the rules change often before the new system is complete
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi announced Sunday the start of military operations to retake the city of Fallujah, which has been controlled by Islamic State militants.
Didn't the USA take back Fallujah under Bush? oh yeah, Obama walked away from all that and wasted all that money and lives.
Amazing how the uninformed love to talk about things they have no clue about
Slink pay attention. We are talking about Scrubbers, then Sorbent Injection and then SCRs. Fix one problem and they make up a new one. Once the Clean Coal technology proves out (your definition of owners upgrading to new tech) there will be a new issue, made up by the EPA, that the power plants will have to deal with.
A big part of the fault in this goes to the owner -operators of these plants who were supposed to upgrade while being let to continue operations . Instead of doing what they were supposed to do they chose to just take the money and run !
This has happened many times Beright, if one chose a sorbent lime injection several years ago, it is now obsolete.
Nope , this was supposed to happen years ago and your republinutz just kepy on selling them credits !
Beright that is exactly the problem, its a moving target. As soon as one spends the money to hit the target, it has changed before the system can be put online
If or when Kemper County/ Southern Company comes on line and proves the technology of clean coal, the environmentalist and the EPA will ask that the standards be raised again. Guaranteed.
Some idiots have no clue what it takes to convert coal power plants that are only "outdated" because of a hostile EPA and power hungry socialist president
The whole problem was in the understanding that out of date powerplants would eventually be updated with clean coal technology but sadly when the owners of said plants found that they could just buy credits they halted the research into clean coal which wasnt part of the deal .
slinky - I Googled "pollution credits" and the first article speaks of the action to which you refer. Others can check it at; "Trading away the Earth; Pollution Credits and the Perils of Free Market Environmentalism".
Here is an exert from that article.
"To true believers in the magic of the free market, it seemed like the perfect plan. But once the EPA actually began auctioning pollution credits in 1993 it became clear that virtually nothing was going according to their projections."
Began in 1993, the very year William Jefferson Blythe III became president and HIS EPA was apparently happy with the arrangement for the full eight years of his term.
h ttp://social-ecology.o rg/w p/1996/04/trading-away-the-earth-pollution-credits-and-the-perils-of-free-market-environmentalism/
They were called pollution credits and thats what kept out of date power plants in business for 20 or so years . google "pollution credits"
Kemper County/ Southern Company Project: This plant says it will meet all current EPA requirements. Why ae Environmentalists so against a project that meets all current rules?
BeRight, you wrote, "The fact that we have an abundance of natural gas through fracking does not change what Obama 'intended' do."
Maybe, maybe not, but we haven't been talking about intentions. Shopsteward was talking cause and effect, not intention, when he wrote that Obama's EPA was the number-one killer of UMW jobs. The discussion is about whether shopsteward's claim is true or false, not Obama's intention.
And I offered up a competent source, the head of a large coal-burning power company, to dispute shopsteward's claim. And my source, Charles Patton, didn't address Obama's intent.
I won't address Obama's intent, either. It's not that important, since the Congress and Court stopped his drive to address it in 2009 and again with the CPP. What actually happened is what counts.
Yes, cheap gas has fallen into our laps. We have been blessed.
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