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4 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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exofDevola

oMg this forum is a joke, there is no discussion whatsoever, same old crap different day!

Posted 194 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

b O o B barking....

Posted 194 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

*****barkin.... dem shill....

Posted 194 days ago.

thegreek

Quite a pack of Democratic lies for the American people...

Posted 194 days ago.

thegreek

lying Senators about ObamaCare. Sen. Baucus (D-MT): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10) Sen. Levin (D) Mi. April 6, 2012: And it is important to remember that for those who already have health insurance, the law allows you to keep your existing plan. Sen. Merkley (D) Or. Nov. 11, 2013: If you like your current health insurance, you will be able to keep it. And you will be able to continue seeing your current doctor.

Posted 194 days ago.

thegreek

more lying senators about Obamacare Sen. Bennet (D-CO): “Start with the basic principle if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them. We will not take that choice away from you.” Sen. Harkin (D-IA): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it”…we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10) Sen. Schumer (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09) Sen. Durbin (D-IL): “This bill before us on the Senate floor makes it clear that if you have an insurance policy that you like, you can keep it. If you like the doctor that you're currently doing business with, you can continue to use that doctor.” (Teleconference, 12/4/09) Sen. Baucus (D-MT): “That is why one of

Posted 194 days ago.

thegreek

lying Senators about ObamaCare. Sen. Reid (D-NV):“In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09) Sen. Murry (D-WA): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09) Sen. Landrieu (D-LA): “If you like the insurance that you have, you'll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09) Sen. Hagan (D-NC): “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they're happy with can keep it (National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09) Sen. Begich (D-AK): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that”. Sen. Bennet (D-CO): “Start with the basic principle if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor,

Posted 194 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker: you posted..."Another idiotic opinion from another rightwing whacko nutjob." based on a report by "Unite Here": "A national union that represents 300,000 low-wage hospitality workers charges in a new report that Obamacare will slam wages, cut hours, limit access to health insurance and worsen the very “income equality” President Obama says he is campaigning to fix. “Only in Washington could asking the bottom of the middle class to finance health care for the poorest families be seen as reducing inequality,” said the report from Unite Here. “Without smart fixes, the ACA threatens the middle class with higher premiums, loss of hours, and a shift to part-time work and less comprehensive coverage,” said the report, titled, “The Irony of Obamacare: Making Inequality Worse.” your own personal prejudice and whacko is shining through.

Posted 194 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

People who make it their business to take other people's money without their express permission are thieves. You people who support Obamacare as it jacks up your neighbor's insurance premiums and deductibles, increases taxes to float the "subsidies", and removes their effective doctors & hospitals & medications from their policies of coverage? You are thieves, accomplices in a major national theft ring!

Posted 195 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

People who want to be in the business of meddling with others' private affairs were once derided as "Busybodies". You Obamacare cheerleaders are "busybodies".

Posted 195 days ago.

whatdifferencedoesitmake

Obstruct the wrong. Of course. Obstruct the over reach of Government intrusion and powermongering over us? Yes! Obstruct the schemes of karl marx and the tactics of Alinsky devotees? This is the good fight! Never give up!

Posted 195 days ago.

luvthesouth

them the full credit they deserve and stop blaming the wrong party. maybe you should be in conversation with him on this topic. he seems to have the answer....blame the republicans. there is your solution. you two hash it out for a bit....unless that is your blame game as well.

Posted 197 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, you and others premiums are predicted to increase even with the law. healthcare costs money. there is no way around that. people risk their homes to foreclosure to purchase many petty things much less for continuing life. if you have dug yourself a large enough hole finacially, then bancruptcy is your saving grace. there is no way individuals as a collective can provide so that no one ever finds themselves in any hardship. even with todays social programs...all i ever hear is it is never enough. insurance provides much toward covering what one otherwise could not. to simply sit back and demand more for less legislatively is the same as enacting law lowering your wage because others may demand more for less from your efforts. everybody wants more...not neccessarily needs more. the problem arises when it comes to who provides the "more". much to the chagrin of BobBarker...the democrats took a full 2+ year hiatis to craft this boondoggle. the least we can do is give the

Posted 197 days ago.

thegreek

Again? How totally ignorant !

Posted 197 days ago.

luvthesouth

still do. DNA and hereditary factors can not be legislated away so far....i think that in the end affordability may be the dream but false success for many may be the reality. glass half-full overlooks failure. glass half-empty acknowledges failure. acceptance of there is nothing better is not a good enough reason to champion a law that will not work as how it was sold but just maybe as it was intended. forgot to say good morning...you too fred.

Posted 197 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, perhaps you may consider applying for the postion of premium collector or healthcare law/tax enforcer. you seem to ignore the fact that if you desire to fix a problem, you must first identify the problem. to sit back and simply stare at the glittering goodies that appeal to you, you should instead fix that which steals its shimmer. those that were not paying before will not pay now. everyone else from taxpayers, the insured, insurance companies, charities and family. sounds a bit like who paid before Obama "fixed" the healthcare system. irresponsible poeple can't be made responsible by law. the lawful are always mistreated by the unlawful. otherwise we would not need laws with penalties but only guidelines and helpful hints in life. the healhcare system was working very well for many years for a heck of alot of people. the choices were there for those to purchase insurance. many chose not too. the choices for healthy living was there but many chose not too...and stil

Posted 197 days ago.

luvthesouth

should "real" waste be eliminated, then i will support that. equal coverage for women is really a misnomer in that all it does is offer free (at others expense rather than recipient) medical care and perks that are gender specific. there is nothing equal in that. since you have me over a barrel with older folks and the donut hole...i have to support that aspect. fair enough? speaking of donuts.....a dozen Krispy Kreme would be banging right now.

Posted 198 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred, you made a mistake...you should have posted "the low-information supporters". it seems that the trivalities that you so easily cast aside seem to be important enough for the President on down to claim their relative importance at the success of the "tax" program. mostly we are all affected by the healthcare(tax) law. no one other than those given certain exemptions and enough tax-credits are immune from the nasties of this healthcare (tax) law. the pre-existing condition requirement does not contain enough safe-guards against undue burden to the insurance companies, federal and state governments as well as every other individual policyholder. the term children is in the law is as misleading as the description and passage of the law itself. why not just call them career students or no-load adults when it comes to covering adults from age 18-26. that is stupid. let them be required to do what every other adult has to do as required by the law. i will say that s

Posted 198 days ago.

thegreek

HAA - Anything else is pure guesswork Bob B says!!!!

They passed a law this gigantic on guess work ???? Good work democrat FOOLS !!!

Posted 199 days ago.

moderation

Whew,whatdif, I bet you typed that holding your breath.How might a citizen influence his best return on a health insurance investment without political representation? Should I just be simply grateful that there is an insurance industry?

Posted 199 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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