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8 days ago.
by slinky
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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NasCarNut

relax folks, they're not giving up yet...third times a charm ;)

Republicans in Congress are moving toward a plan to use a special budgetary process to repeal ObamaCare, after the Supreme Court ruled for a second time to uphold the controversial law.

Posted 314 days ago.

harryanderson

Of course I was being facetious. Politics should have nothing to do with Supreme Court decisions.

But it obviously does. This case follows the pattern of many others. Republican appointees vote the Republican Party line and Democratic appointees vote the Democratic Party line.

In case after case, the courts don’t decide on the basis of right and wrong. They decide on the basis of party affiliation. That makes them political tools, and their opinions should be judged in that light.

BTW: Scalia follows the party line as much as anybody. Judge his dissent accordingly

Posted 314 days ago.

BeRight

The financial news reports that the biggest winners in the SCOTUS decision are the hospitals.

They will make tons more money.

The biggest losers are the newly insured who think they will get care from a system that is already stretched.

Obamacare is not about health care, it is about insurance.

Posted 314 days ago.

absolem

the extra and unexpected word at the end was a tx-exempt freebie and not required to be reported as the value falls well below the 1/100 cent valuse of most printed coupons.

Posted 314 days ago.

absolem

harryanderson...good morning. just think...it all began as not being a tax....ohhh wait...it became a tax..and a tax with exemptions and exclusions along with a myriad of modifications that allow it to be the artists canavs in which to craft a masterpiece of legislation. choice.

Posted 314 days ago.

harryanderson

John Roberts and Anthony Kennedy have betrayed the Republican Party that gave them their jobs.

Now is the perfect opportunity for Republicans to ensure that future SCOTUS appointees remain loyal to the Party.

The House should immediately bring Articles of Impeachment against Roberts. Maybe enough Democratic senators, hoping for a replacement chosen by Obama, will join the Republican senators in removing him. Then, McConnell should refuse to vote on any replacement until a Republican president gets elected.

Even if Roberts isn’t removed, future Republican appointees will understand that they WILL PAY A HEAVY PRICE if they stray from the Party line.

We must stop this ACTIVIST, LAWLESS, OUT-OF-CONTROL Supreme Court.

Posted 314 days ago.

Kunectdots

I'm sure Obama still carries some residual love in his heart for Chief Justice Roberts for s-crewing up the delivery of his first presidential oath of office.

Posted 315 days ago.

NasCarNut

The rule of law is as follows: Congress enacts the laws and if the law gets challenged on constitutional principles and the SCOTUS agrees to consider the challenge, then they issue a majority decision affirming or denying constitutionality of the law. That's precisely what has happened. And that's precisely what is defined as the rule of law in our democracy. 

Posted 315 days ago.

absolem

So...???????

Posted 324 days ago.

BeRight

President Obama spoke in front of the Catholic Health Association and Keehan, whom he conceded he couldn’t have passed the ACA without. He went on to say, “And it’s true, I just love nuns, generally.”

Posted 325 days ago.

BeRight

"I'm OWO from the internet. I'm the guy who always says ridiculous angry stuff. I misinterpret every comment you make as an absurd absolute and then I attack it like you are a moron. "

Posted 332 days ago.

Kunectdots

Don't be so uppity!

Posted 332 days ago.

Kunectdots

It seems I also remember that program getting "a little help from the right" in the form of the funds, that we had involuntarily paid into Medicare over the years being pillaged as seed money for ObamaCare.

Posted 333 days ago.

Kunectdots

Stillhere - I was looking at it from the standpoint that science and medical technology will, very soon, extend the lives for those that are able to afford the techniques, but only for those the techniques will be afforded to.

The political controlling forces around this planet are well aware of the ramifications of a 30% increase in productive (enjoyable) longevity. Why not come up with a program ahead of that time that insures the benefit would be 'managed'?

If that program could be disguised as a governmentally operated magnanimous effort (ObamaCare turned Single Payer, et al), when it's really anything but, all the better for the manipulators.

Posted 338 days ago.

BeRight

Check my posts from 605 days ago on this topic.

Posted 338 days ago.

Kunectdots

Ever considered the possible ulterior motives of ObamaCare? By this I mean even going beyond the "redistribution of wealth" theory for it's creation.

How about if it's already known, by some upper levels of power and influence, that we stand on the cusp of major disease elimination and revolutionary means of life extension? Muffy, Biff and the twins might have to share the world's beaches and a diminishing world food supply with more and more Joe ******** and his brats.

The well-heeled snobs can't have that and one way to prevent it is by having the government (which always answers to Muffy and Biff) takeover the healthcare system.

Ironically, Muffy and Biff had their bought-and-paid-for representative in the WH and the gang of crooks with which he surrounds himself, convince Joe ******* to demand, by voting, that such a system be brought to fruition.

Be careful what you wish for! They may kill you with it.

Posted 338 days ago.

BeRight

A recent study from the Commonwealth Fund found that more people with health insurance still can’t afford to seek treatment—mainly because they’re enrolled in higher deductible policies.

According to the study, about 23 percent of Americans with coverage are considered underinsured—up from 12 percent in 2003. That means roughly 31 million Americans who bought health insurance still have trouble affording treatment under their policies.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted 338 days ago.

BeRight

Health insurance premiums for plans sold on Obamacare’s health exchanges are about to get higher next year, according to a glimpse of rate proposals—some with double-digit increases—that the White House made public this week. Under the Affordable Care Act, insurers are required to make public any rate proposals that increase by at least 10 percent on the federal government’s website. Though premium rates vary significantly depending on the region, major carriers including UnitedHealthcare, Athena and Blue Cross Blue Shield have proposed rate increases for next year between 10 and 30 percent in a handful of states.

Some are even higher. For example, Blue Cross Blue Shield in Alabama proposes to raise its platinum plan (the highest tiered plan) by 71 percent next year. Obamacare has already taken heat for not yet making coverage more affordable.

Posted 338 days ago.

Teapartier

Very well said absolem. Bravo..

Posted 383 days ago.

absolem

They are souring under their own lack of merit and forethought. Perhaps if your side would listen in the first place instead of posturing, promising and then under delivering, your programs would stand a chance of working...so far it hasn't without casualties of those you claim to champion.

Posted 383 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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