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13 days ago.
by BeRight
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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luvthesouth

that. the irony that i was getting at, that he seemed to miss, is the law that was created to help the poor and middle-class will financially do the opposite in respect to the deductable. as i said i allowed myself to veer off course and go down a path of lunacy. i have changed direction.

Posted 201 days ago.

luvthesouth

good morning moderation. i hope you already know the answer to your question..but like i said to BobBarker...what does that have to do with the out-of-pocket deductable that those with the mandated health insurance have to pay. is there a provision in the A.C.A. that directs the same sort of financing for the deductables that i and most americans are not aware of? he stated he doesn't know and immediately went off on some tangent that had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation except to dredge up his dislike of the past administration when the discussion, at least in my mind, centered around the topic of healthcare. now if wanted to make the stretch of saying that all of that money was planned to have been borrowed and used for healthcare and not the wars...then fine...make that statement of fact. the problem is...there was zero plan to borrow money to pay for the healthcare law....it is a tax...that's how it was passed. it is not a spending resolution. although it will become

Posted 201 days ago.

moderation

lts- what was to method used to pay for the middle east actions?

Posted 202 days ago.

thegreek

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Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

O.K?????....well that sure does answer my simple question. so how much did i say the democrats borrowed to finance the A.C.A. the same way the wars were financed? i am sorry i just about got vacuumed (nice version of the word i desired to use) into a strange parallel universe of a conversation with you. i fear i may have to pull the ripcord and bail out of this discussion. you are conversing in a tangent that should trail off into the wild blue yonder. i think the Olympics may be on now. take care.

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

*fine...no problems with the exception of spelling that is. 8-)

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

dictate and modify the parameters of a law through decree. stunning. anyway you can hold onto your pixiestick narrow view of the A.C.A. as much as you desire and i am find with that. no problems here. L.L.& P.

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker, it is not inconvenient. it is just that is has no real bearing the here and now. the money saved/borrowed for the wars would not be used to fund the A.C.A. anyway. the way i understand it to work is through tax credits for the premiums or pay a penalty. the deductable for other than no-charge components, as required by the law, must be paid by the consumer based on the insurance they choose through the website. there is a vast difference between that and financing of the wars. my one and only point is how are those that did not or could not purchase insurance on their own be able or forced to pay the deductable. i asked you how are they going to do it??? you chose answer with some rambling nonsense that comes nowhere near suggesting or even guessing at a real answer. frankly...i do want to know the logic behind how Obama thinks he is going get "blood out of a turnip". that is a fair question. everyone should be concerned that the president is being allowed to dic

Posted 202 days ago.

Tiredofit

LTS Obama has no right to change the law that was passed by congress, he IS breaking the law

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

*democrats. do you really wish to drag in the wars to deflect from your discussion of the merits of this law? you are running away from the discussion of this law faster than the democrats that are up for re-election are running away from Obama.

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker...when the democrtas were in power...they could have given us the insurance you are claiming the republicans did not allow...but they didn't. listen...can you not discuss anything about this without slamming the republicans? lets talk about the merits of the A.C.A. but if you are that one-dimensional then just let me know and you can continue to parrot your line by yourself...O.K.?

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

facilities and doctors that are willing to work with and in some instances forgive any debt just to provide for the patient. just in our area we have several "free" or pay what you can clinics that offer health services as well as a great county health department that provides many services that are free to the residents. i think the healthcare crisis was overstated to achieve some goal other than what we have been lead to believe. "the dish can't be that great if it is always being sent back to the cook."

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker..while it is great to be sold on how benevolent a program is, it is another thing to actually understand the true cost of their benevolence. please understand something...i think that everyone should want good healthcare. now the rub comes in as to whom is going to pay for that healthcare. how do you hold people responsible and ensure that they provide it for themselves. well you can that is what the A.C.A does. O.K., i'll agree. now let's also agree that the requirement for them to actually pay when it is subsidized to the point of being free does not accomplish what the A.C.A. intended. the A.C.A. set the guidelines for what we, that are able to pay , have to purchase and not what we want to purchase. there are many charities that exist for the sole purpose of providing assistance for those that require operations or procedures but do not have the funds. there are also medical failities and doctors that are willing to work with and in some instances forgive any debt just t

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker...those tax breaks or subsidies are for their monthly premium not their deductable. now...how do they pay their deductable?

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

so how are they going to pay the deductable???????????

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

*enforcement

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

also there to seize assets and assess deductions from payroll and other income on the average joe...you know the ones the democrats are looking out for.

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker...how are they going to cough up the deductable when they need to use their newly aquired but unpaid for health insurance? these are the same folks that did not see fit to be either able to afford health insurance or chose to spend their money on other items. lets face it chances are they were already on another taxpayer provided program whether it was housing, food, income, health, disability or any other program for those that are income-challenged. the A.C.A. has shifted a greater burden on those that could not even afford it before. i just don't see how you think this is a great idea...the only obvious reason is that it was the democrats that said it was needed. i know for a fact that the same fear of losing assets will be there even after the full implementation of the law. why do you think the law has the I.R.S. do the financial enforcemnet and collection? do not kid yourself it is to ensure that the greedy corporations, as you like to call them, pony up...but it is al

Posted 202 days ago.

luvthesouth

btw bobbarker...i still like you and hope you have top notch healthcare.

Posted 203 days ago.

luvthesouth

this debacle is still the republicans fault isn't it? amuse us and put as much effort in assigning blame to the democrats that crafted, approved and signed into law this cluster duck of a law.

Posted 203 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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