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7 days ago.
by BeRight
Valveguy
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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Tiredofit

Ten bucks says he calls you a racist Faux news watcher and ignores your facts.

Posted 204 days ago.

thegreek

Good research LTS.

Posted 204 days ago.

luvthesouth

performance based to simple income weighting. that is all that has occured. considering the defectiveness of the product we have been forced to buy, i doubt in your everyday purchasing of your own goods and services that many would tolerate the bumbling attempt to re-do something as critical as one's healthcare.. but many of you support it without as much as a whimper. i can only hope to get in the position where i only draw and won't give a rats behind what they do...sort of like the 6 million that signed up for the "new" great plan where they went from one taxpayer paid program to another....big whoop.

Posted 204 days ago.

luvthesouth

in addition, the beneflex program used to allow folks to have approx. $5,0000.00 annually taken tax-free out of their paycheck to be used for healthcare related goods and services...that has been slashed to approx. $2,500.00 per participant. that 50% reduction has a profound effect on those middle-income wage earners with the loss of $2,500.00 tax-free dollars that they used to provide for themselves and their family. that was all due to Obamacare. the so-called "benefits" that you seem to tout such as 26 y.o. kids that should be out on their own, birth control for those that either don't understand the word control or are to cheap or stupid to provide their own, the potential scam and ultimate costs to the insurance companies as well as the american taxpayer for the "pre-existing condition provision, and the removal of weighted fees due to historical and documented costs based on gender is ludacris. the weighted premiums have been shifted from medically proven performa

Posted 204 days ago.

luvthesouth

generations will pay $71.3 trillion in payroll taxes but will receive $93.4 trillion in benefits. Adjusting for past and future transfers from the federal Treasury, the difference between "paid-in" and "paid-out" works out to $21.6 trillion." the systems we have in place hedge their bets just like the insurance companies. they are banking on you not making it much past retirement age. either way the government through borrowed monies makes up the shortfall wit nary a complaint...especially by those drawing out and not paying in.

Posted 204 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred, i took the liberty of looking into my claim about paying less than what many fortunate folks will take out of not only S.S. and Medicare. this is what i found to substantiate my claim. the following assumes a starting working age of 22 until the then current retirement age of 65. this also assumes continous employment at a steady rate of income. " According to the institute’s data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage — $44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into Social Security and Medicare and can be expected to take out $966,000 in benefits. So, this couple will be paid about one-third more in benefits than they paid in taxes." "the Social Security shortfall will be more than evened out by the extra dollars the couple gets back from Medicare. The couple will have paid $122,000 in Medicare taxes but will receive $387,000 in benefits — more than three times what they paid in." "past and current gene

Posted 204 days ago.

luvthesouth

good morning asknot...sorry i missed being able to say hi to you last night. to be truthful...i finally got around to finding an older memory card for a playstation and was trying out some of the older games. plus the interruption by a poster kind of put the turd in the punchbowl for me.

Posted 204 days ago.

luvthesouth

good morning gents...i see this discussion has not make much progress.

Posted 204 days ago.

RANDOM21

If ACA is "the law of the Land", how is it being changed and modified so many times but not by Congress who makes and amends laws? How can a law be constitutional that allows administrators the power to change it at will without consulting Congress, especially if those changes affect the amount of money it will cost? Just a few random questions to help get this back on track.

Posted 205 days ago.

Kendall78

This will be amusing because so many pages of copy/psate will disappear by this time tomorrow.

Posted 205 days ago.

Kendall78

I was glad that they suspended the penalty for this year. It will give many people a better chance to get coverage.

Posted 205 days ago.

Tiredofit

You should read the Communist party USA stance as it is identical to YOURS

Posted 205 days ago.

Tiredofit

another association that does not exist.

Posted 205 days ago.

Tiredofit

Fred if you have not read the Communist party platform you should, it sounds just like you.

Posted 205 days ago.

Tiredofit

Fred have you read it? or is this more of your BS

Posted 205 days ago.

Tiredofit

LTS if you want some interesting reading go to the communist party USA website and just compare their platform to the current DNC squawking points

Posted 205 days ago.

Tiredofit

As I said Fred, you have a habit of trying to make your opponent fit your argument rather than the other way around. That's why you use straw men wild accusation and associations that don't exist as you lack the ability to tailor your arugument, you just spew it.

Posted 205 days ago.

luvthesouth

i just saw where asknot was getting ready to start gnawing on the "Obamacare Bone" of contention!

Posted 205 days ago.

Tiredofit

Yea fred you had us on the ropes. Geez you are deluded.

Posted 205 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred...it appears we will need to finish our discussion another time or consider it finished.

Posted 205 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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