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33 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
Valveguy
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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luvthesouth

i won't mention how the green incentives was money flushed down the tubes...well maybe not down the tubes but in barry's buddies pockets.

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

very toxic environment for our economy. we can no longer exist on our own debt laden products. as an example, there are groups of products or commodities if you will that is distributed by my corporation that is imported from India and Pakistan. i have personally contacted a local manufacturer for one of these and discussed how i would like for us to distribute their product. i explained we were local and were able pick the product up with little effort on their part. i explained our market as well as the price points we could live with and what our clients expected and were used to. in the end we can have the product imported with all shipping for 40% less than what they wanted to charge. i am well aware of wal-marts habit of beating down the vendors. but i also understand why they do it. as much as they hurt the local vendors, if the local vendors could offer the savings then they would not be concerned with wal-mart. we keep wal-mart alive because they do what they do best. besides

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, in case you have not noticed we are now a big economic global village. well before wal-mart our government hand-in-hand with business leaders began the destruction of our economy and place in the world as a great producer. there are several ways in which to lift up thrid world countries that we have been made to feel guilty about due to their lack of resources, shoddy leadership and general state of humanity. you can either give them the money and resources straight out which we have done through grants, gifts and loooooooow cost loans, or we can build up thir trade by allowing them to produce the goods that we used to make. either way you can't argue that for the past 30-40 years american exceptionalism and pride has been on the decline or have i been the only one listening and paying attention? when you couple our monetary policies along with global monetary policies, we end up being our own worst enemy. inflation, currency stagnation and currency manipulation have created a

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

sorry for the many typos in my main post. thats what i get for trying to think and type on the fly. i admit i am still too absent-minded to use spell-check.

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

* G.E.

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

i think it has been proven that mandated pay scales may work well in government classified positions where the government can unilaterally increase its revenue by taxation or borrowing whether directly or indirectly. private businesses as you know do not have the same ability. our governemnt through its monetary policies could reduce inflation to the point where all americans could rise above the inlated poverty level. there iare a few things needed that you can't currently legislate and that is motivation, initiative, and personal responsibility. even with the ACA which was sold as a means of having all pay for health insurance, we see that those that draw assistance now will still get free health care. that kind of defeats the purpose, don't you think? also, we are still going to pay those that we pay for now. it's just a realignment of the revenue stream. different day...same B.S.

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, good evening. regarding wal-mart, please consider this. in 2010 wal-mart corporation paid $7.1 billion(32.4% tax rate) in income taxes. using 2013 store numbers of 4,135 times your democratic leaning figure of $1,000,000.00 per store in cost to the taxpayer equals $4.135 billion. thereby netting the government approx. $3 billion in revenue plus the savings of unemployment benefits as well as full welfare benefits. consider that G.G paid zero taxes on % billion in U.S. profits. this was all due to a huge write-off loss from the G.E. Capitol branch of the corporation. wal-mart employs 1.4 million americans at a salary rate above even California's most liberal minimum wage. quite franky it could be said that these 1.4 million workers could or would find other jobs if their current employment situation is that unbearable. in addition, consider the magnitude of the problems that we currently have if those 1.4 million folks were not working and paying taxes into the system. i think

Posted 354 days ago.

moderation

Thank you, and good morning to you,lts. it seems you are quoted when one chooses not to, or cannot 'voice' ones' own thought for whatever reason.kinda like a surrogate for emotional expression.(; If you have a resource for a behavioral explanation,you may find it interesting.this will be part of the new aca application of coverage, by the way.

Posted 354 days ago.

Valveguy

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Posted 354 days ago.

Valveguy

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Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

sorry to have not added.... beyond.

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

moderation, good morning. to answer your question, yes i do. it is easy enough for me to recall much of what i post but for someone to either remember, store or even take the time to peruse through past posts in all of the topics would be in my opinion remarkable.

Posted 354 days ago.

moderation

lts- do you really believe that "it is beyond remarkable"?

Posted 354 days ago.

luvthesouth

R1KRA8, how you remember and quote what i have posted is beyond remarkable. btw i rather liked that particular line.

Posted 355 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, i agree that sometimes it would be nice for him to be more forthcoming, but then again most of us control to different degrees the information we xhare about ourselves. he and i have had very few extended conversations but he has always provided verifiable information. in that he is guiltless. i am saddened that you did not fully appreciate the comedy classic that is Malibus Most Wanted. it is a deliciously decadent movie treat that we enjoy along with Dumb and Dumber (the original), Young Frankenstein (pronounced frankensteen), Blazing Saddles, Tommy Boy and Animal House. sometimes, actually amny times, complete lunacy is the ultimate escape from the sometimes dreary state of affairs we find ourselves exposed too in this day and time.

Posted 355 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, prompt and prod as you might but as B-Rad said in Malibus Most Wanted..." I y'am's what I y'am's"...and so shall R1KRA8 be.

Posted 355 days ago.

BeRight

All along the conservatives said this Obamacare would raise the price of insurance coverage. The Libs said it would not. The conservatives said you can’t offer a rainbow of new services and keep the costs the same. Well, people are finding out that when their old coverage gets cancelled, as predicted, their costs are going up.

What a pack of hooey by the libs.

Posted 355 days ago.

thegreek

The dems discounted every proposal that thR's and AMA gave them, opting for Obama's miracle.

Posted 356 days ago.

thegreek

Asknotr. as I have said. Something so important as health care should have been handled a little better than willie nillie. BUT no. The dems have bet the farm on this one without benefit of counsil from the AMA repubs or anyone so here we are and it is just the beginning. I have been involved with projects that were planned half as$ed all my life and this one sure looks like the mother of all of them !!!

Posted 356 days ago.

BeRight

And the Administration continues to grant more waivers and considers many more.

When you consider the numbers in the groups that were already granted waivers, that number is larger than the numbers who are expected to sign up. LOL

Posted 356 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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