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13 days ago.
by BeRight
Valveguy
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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Kunectdots

Asknot - When you express; "Instead of just whining about ACA and posting titles of books/websites that anyone can google and find to justify their own beliefs. Let's hear a thought on what we should do INSTEAD of ACA." I HAVE A QUESTION.

Why did the Obamanites roll into the WH, with both houses of congress under their arms, and immediately act like the country was burning down for lack of 15% (A DISTINCT MINORITY) of the people not having health care coverage? THEN, while crafting their witch's brew to take control of 18% of our national economy, they unabashedly blocked ANY republican input on the subject.

Now, sore winners (such as yourself) make laudatory statements like, "Let's hear a thought on what we should do INSTEAD of ACA." I've got news for you, Bud. It's too late. You've done the damage.

Posted 302 days ago.

moderation

Here's to ya,..asknot !

Posted 302 days ago.

Valveguy

All good points.

Posted 302 days ago.

thegreek

Asknot. I agree with Beright. Something so important as a health care law should have NEVER been passed like a knee jerk reaction to right something and for darn sure with none of the people voting for it even understanding what is in it !!! That is a breeding ground for corruption and miserable failure. Just because the old system sucked in your opinion, which I dont think so, if you wanted money and healthcare, you got .... a... ah....JOB TO PAY FOR IT.. It wasn't given to you !!!

Posted 303 days ago.

Valveguy

If you want to talk about SNAP and EBT, start your own Forum Topic. We are trashing Obmamacare on this one.

Posted 303 days ago.

Valveguy

The Snap cuts for the working poor was Obama’s fault since the benefits that Libs call "cuts" were only temporary to begin as asked for by Obama and the Democrats. So the correct explanation or better explanation of what happened this week would be something like the “temporary SNAP benefits buried in the Stimulus bill ran out this week since the Democrats and the Obama administration thought that their Stimulus Bill would have the economy turned around by now and the temporary SNAP benefits would no longer be needed”. Too bad the Stimulus bill failed like a Jimmy Carter administration.

Posted 303 days ago.

scrappile

Getting Rich Off of EBT Cards? You know…Those Processing Fees ... lonelyconservative****/.../getting-rich-off-of-ebt-cards-you-know-those Aug 11, 2013 - When the U.S. went from traditional food stamps, SNAP and FNS ... As you will read about below, JP Morgan has made at least 560 million dollars ... As it happened, nearly all states hired private companies to manage the ... rolls persons who are under 200 percent of the Federal Poverty Line and who are ...

Posted 303 days ago.

scrappile

Um, some lose their talking points about subsidizing the poor when scenerios happen like this week, 5 billion in snap benefits were cut from the working poor, yet, JP Morgan did not lose 1 of the 200 million dollars they are paid to oversee the program, those big agco subsides were not cut either...

Posted 303 days ago.

BeRight

There is a problem with a law when 100% of the Democrats vote for a law before reading it and then once they do read it they work 100% to exempt themselves from that same law. This is what we have in ACA. We hear speeches all the about something had to be done to bring down the cost of health care. This is about insurance policies and forcing people to buy something they do not need. Young people are being force to buy more insurance then they need to generate money to pay for people who will get subsidized policies. Health care costs are not going down. The losers are going to be the middle class and young people who are going to be asked to subsidize those considered poor. A noble but costly proposition to those who will pay the price.

Posted 303 days ago.

Kunectdots

Asknot - As you follow Obama down the path to ruin, you're going to have "options".

Those options will be called a Single Payer health care program...and you're NOT going to like it.

Posted 303 days ago.

thegreek

Lets just say we have differing opinions on our governments role in our lives. You have no problem with them being big and having them involved in everything and I on the other hand like less big brother involvement because I trust most of my fellow citizens to do the right thing without a law forcing them. And I think big gov is wasteful and non productive. I am not a fanatic that thinks someone or some group ought to revolt, I just would like to pay less taxes especially if I am supporting people that do not have enough gumption to get a job and earn their own money. People that need help, I have no problem in helping but only until they can recover and get back on their feet if possible. This ACA seems like it is gonna cover illegal aliens. I didn't like the fact that it required manditory contraceptives. I thought that was a gov going too far and turns out that has been stricken due to religious beliefs.

Posted 303 days ago.

thegreek

tail. Not talk.

Posted 303 days ago.

thegreek

When Cruz filibustered the opening day of the ACA you didnt hear him on CNN saying the dems made him do it or Clinton started it or whatever. He just sorta put his talk between his legs and slithered off.

Posted 303 days ago.

thegreek

AND I get severly tired of the democratic maracle cures that they put in place and blame others when it fails miserably. At least the republicans have the decency to just keep their stupid mouths shut when they goof up. Not them democrats, they are flapping their gums that the communist tea party caused it or Rush or Beck or Bush or Cheney was at fault ... God it is rediculous. They need to grow up, put their big boy or girl pants on and take responsibility !!!

Posted 304 days ago.

thegreek

everything and you seem to blame the repubs which I disagree with. They should all selfishly work together for the common good of all of the US citizens. Obama started all of this divisiveness by rewarding the groups that helped get him elected and punishes the ones that challenged him.

Posted 304 days ago.

thegreek

I am not sticking my chest out. My point is that there were many alternate proposals that were introduced when the ACA was being debated in congress and Pelosi and Reid rammed this one thru. Dr. Ben Carson came up with a Health Savings Account. The repubs came up with a tax credit to be applied towards everyones health care. The AMA had a proposal. Do you not find it troubling that not a single republican voted for this ACA bill??? Even if you are for of against the bill or repub or dem, I would think a taxpayer should be worried about this. The fact that one party cares so little about the people that elected them all that they would do something like that and then ask for bi partisan ship on other issues and then degrade them when they rebel. That is what I see the dems doing. I am not a diehard republican but the actions of the dems have me worried because they seem to have no regard for the law of the land or the constitution !!And from your posts, you seem to stand up for them on

Posted 304 days ago.

thegreek

I say - WE TRIED BUT PELOSI AND REID PASSED THE BILL WITHOUT CONSIDERING ANY OTHER PLANS.. CAN YOU NOT GET THIS THRU YOUR HEAD. THAT PART IS OVER THANKS TO THE DEMOCRATS THAT VOTED THE ACA IN. IT IS YOUR BABY NOW SO QUIT ASKING FOR ALTERNATIVES...OK?? Do YOU get that part ?????You can quit asking for anyone to help.. Their suggestions WILL NOT be considered at this point !!! It is a matter of your hero Barry sealing his place in history..Good grief.. Are all of you that voted for him that callous???

Posted 304 days ago.

thegreek

Asknot says - Something has to be done about health care, ACA, as per most government programs is a boondoggle so far. It needs tweaked and changed sooner than later. But its a step in the right direction. But we do need to fix it ASAP. So instead of just whining, why don't you be productive and urge our politicians to come up with answers instead of just pointing fingers? We can't continue the "old system" its unfair, and will bankrupt us.

I say - WE TRIED BUT PELOSI AND REID PASSED THE BILL WITHOUT CONSIDERING ANY OTHER PLANS.. CAN YOU NOT GET THIS THRU YOUR HEAD. THAT PART IS OVER THANKS TO THE DEMOCRATS THAT VOTED THE ACA IN. IT IS YOUR BABY NOW SO QUIT ASKING FOR ALTERNATIVES...OK??

Posted 304 days ago.

thegreek

OK Obama Champion Asknot..Answer this.. How much money has been spent on implementing ObamaCare to give coverage to only 15 percent of the population??? The bid for setting up the website was awarded to Michelles BFF without being opened to any other companies. Some say it is repayment for services rendered to help reelection campaign... How do you explain these things other than blame it on Rush and Beck??? Do you feel this is fiscally responsible since you call the old method not viable??? I know that your answer will probably include a tongue lashing for the republicans. You do claim to have an open mind so lets hear it..

Posted 304 days ago.

BeRight

I am impressed the Oniel has a firm grasp of the ACA even though those in the media don't get it. Is is also amazing that Harry Reid refuses to put his staff into the exchanges at the same time he promotes the exchnages. More waivers are granted daily for friends of Obmama but he tells us that the exchanges are the best thing since sliced watermellon.

and six people have already signed up.

Posted 304 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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