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8 days ago.
by slinky
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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luvthesouth

fred...aknowledgement does not equal agreement. you are going to make me work for this one..aren't you? legislating personal responsibility is not as easy as it sounds. the A.C.A. had that goal in mind...unless it was another LIE! the delays, the lack of those signing up within the desired demographic as well as the 20% that have not even made premium payment "one" will hamper the intention and success of the law. the numbers are out there for you to review and assess from forbes, yahoo financial, wsj etc....you can take the time..i have fresh coffee to pour! :-)

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

btw fred...i was impressed by your reciting of the bible verse in a couple of the topics. so are you a god-fearing man or simply an appreciative fan of handy bible verses?

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred, i m more of a numbers person than an emotional person...with the exception of children and the elderly. maybe that is why i extend patience with you more than i normally would. where in my post did i say it should be scrapped? i stated that the exemptions along with the sign-up statistics would not allow the law to realize its stated goal. you may choose to read more into my post...but it is simply not there. all people enjoy instant gratification....i won't even go there on that topic.

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

but now they know that Obama is worthless...should he be forced give back the award??? lets ask Putin.

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker, your explanation of the reason he received the award kind of degrades its significance.

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

actually fred, if you can get past your obvious blindness of the facts, you will find that what i posted was gleaned from several non-fox sources and combined into my objectionable post. while reading my posts may be a struggle, i find great glee in having you take the time to read them. i think you will find the facts that i provided to be accurate and since you do seem to read my post with prejudice, you may find that i was dismayed that the actual mandates that would make this law successful were being dismantled by it's namesake. everyday is nice and thank you.

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

your doctor." even though he neglected to add that he also stated empirically that you can keep your doctor. is he really not satified with only having ONE "Lie of the Year" award???? greedy...ain't he!

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

for some... no pain and all gain. the President is slowly but surely removing the teeth(personal responsiblility) from the law by suggestion and then vote. the exemptions i believe will keep the law from its intended purpose in several respects. this law has the unfolding potential to become another unfunded mandate which will need to be funded. it has been shown that the people will not fully fund the law through personal responsibility and therefore the balance will need to be provided....but how? the hardship exemption along with the many others as well as the less than stellar performance so far is further bewildering when one hears the president say that the law is fully funded by its participants that have signed up so far. his statement and the numbers do not balance. is this just another anticipated success like his Nobel Peace prize??? is optimism to be blindly deemed as success? it appears so...by the way in the same interview he conceded that "you may have to change yo

Posted 893 days ago.

exofDevola

I know people on Medicaid who are working people and yes they pay taxes, just like you do .

Posted 896 days ago.

exofDevola

Sold have clarified free for those who need it, to qualify for Medicaid you need to be pretty poor. If you are single, you can have very little in possessions,must work a minimum wage job or close to it. They have always been poor people and unfortunately they have gotten themselves into a situation where this is the only way they can be treated for illness. Medicaid is not a new program.

Posted 896 days ago.

exofDevola

Medicaid is free , not obamacare.

Posted 896 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker...the A.C.A. sabotaged itself. it did not need any help at accomplishing that feat. it looks like according to the president, lack of implementation is the fix and thusly it should just be called what it actually is....a failure.

Posted 896 days ago.

luvthesouth

thegreek..thanks..i have been batting around that little gem for awhile. i thought it would fit quite nicely and it did. have a great evening.

Posted 896 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker, you are one up on me since i do not listen to Rush unless i am in the car. i thought your number seemed a little high even from an optimistic standpoint, so i had to look further. speaking of the radio, i wish i could stay up and listen to the coast-to-coast broadcasts. they seem to have some pretty interesting characters on that show. anyway, i do hope you are well and in good health so you do not need to sweat this heathcare debacle that the democrats forced upon all of us.

Posted 896 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker, according to CNBC, the actual number that signed up was 943,000. bringing the total to 4.2 million that have signed up so far. that is about 2 million beneath the goal of the administration. the targeted demographic that would keep this law financially afloat has stayed at an average sign-up rate of only 27%. nearly 20% of the 4.2 million that have signed up have yet to make a single payment as required by the law. the zeal of the sign-up is lost when actually having to pay. it is not surprising to see the number of sign-ups when you consider that the large majority of them are already on a government subsidized medical program. shifting from one taxpayer funded program to another is hardly anything to crow about...but you do. as usual you are a "Chirpee"...i used to think that a chirpee was what you would call a disease if a bird had herpes...but i was wrong.

Posted 896 days ago.

BeRight

I see Bob is still drinking the MSNBC coolaid. Long live Ed Schultz.

Posted 902 days ago.

luvthesouth

the new american ethic... from yahoo finance: Up to one-fifth of people who signed up for insurance under Obamacare aren't paying. the next bailout. screw the deduction cause i ain't even paying the premium! gosh i love it...too easy.

Posted 922 days ago.

luvthesouth

moderation....yes. it does as long as there is gravity without obstacles to impede its movement. the democrats are learning that sometimes when you think you have gotten rid of your poop...it comes back. gravity is then...not your friend. 8-)

Posted 922 days ago.

luvthesouth

moderation, in a macro sense of the word consumer, everything by law that we are responsible for is traced back to that point. the difference being you as a consumer do not make a direct payment nor was the war declared a law, but your chosen deductable is a payment made exclusively by you and is a law. either way, the question still remains unanswered by your chiming-in-shadow as to how those are expected to pay the deductable when they did not prove to be financacially willing to even have the insurance prior to the law. i am somewhat (not really) stunned as to the association of the recent military excursions (we did not declare war) from both of you when i, as a conservative republican, question the part of the law that causes harm against those that the democrats profess such concern. that part of the law is like harming a woman while you profess to be saving her from her abusive partner.

Posted 922 days ago.

moderation

Poop still runs downhill, doesn't it?

Posted 922 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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