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26 days ago.
by BeRight
Valveguy
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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BeRight

Go ahead and Google “insurance premiums going down”

Posted 352 days ago.

BeRight

In Fred’s letter to the editor this morning he states “there has been a marked drop in insurance premiums since the implementation of the early stages of the Affordable Healthcare Act”. Where in the world is he getting this information from? The administration is able to point to the rates that are lower than they were expected to be by the Congressional Budget Office. But But But……………………………. But the bad news is that those rates they are bragging about are much higher than what people are currently paying! What a bunch of hooey.

Posted 352 days ago.

BeRight

In a break with many congressional Democrats and President Barack Obama, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said Wednesday he would back a one-year delay of the individual mandate in the stopgap spending bill.

"There’s no way I could not vote for it,” he said at a Bloomberg Government breakfast. “It’s very reasonable and sensible."

Posted 354 days ago.

Valveguy

One last thing about that referenced poll in last night’s letter to the editor: Only 27% of those polled were Republicans so the other 73% were not from the “right”. Do you think that poll was a little skewed to the left? LOL

Posted 367 days ago.

Valveguy

disapproved and 35% of the Independents Strongly disapproved.

Posted 368 days ago.

Valveguy

I took a look a the participants in the poll that Joan Dearth quoted in her letter to the editor in tonight’s paper. On the same chart that she uses to support her case the chart also says that 59% of the Republicans and 30% of the independents don’t want the law delayed as she says because they want the law repealed! Also in the poll only 11% of the Democrats thought that Obamacare would provide higher quality care. Only 16% of the Democrats on that poll thought that Obamacare would improve the availability of medical benefits you receive from your health insurance, such as doctors appointments, medical treatments and prescription drugs. Only 6% of the Democrats on that poll thought the Obamacare would provide much less expensive health care. 32% of the Democrats thought that the health care law would have no affect on their family while 18% thought they would be worse off. Only 35% of the Democrats Strongly Approved of Obamacare while 65% of the Republicans Strongly disapprov

Posted 368 days ago.

Valveguy

On the same chart that she uses to support her case the chart also says that 59% of the Republicans and 30% of the independents don’t want the law delayed as she says because they want the law repealed! Also in the poll only 11% of the Democrats thought that Obamacare would provide higher quality care. Only 16% of the Democrats on that poll thought that Obamacare would improve the availability of medical benefits you receive from your health insurance, such as doctors appointments, medical treatments and prescription drugs. Only 6% of the Democrats on that poll thought the Obamacare would provide much less expensive health care. 32% of the Democrats thought that the health care law would have no affect on their family while 18% thought they would be worse off. Only 35% of the Democrats Strongly Approved of Obamacare while 65% of the Republicans Strongly disapproved and 35% of the Independents Strongly disapproved.

Posted 368 days ago.

Valveguy

The AFL-CIO on Wednesday approved a resolution critical of parts of President Barack Obama’s health care law in spite of efforts by White House officials to discourage the labor federation from making its concerns so prominent. The strongly worded resolution says the Affordable Care Act will drive up the costs of union-sponsored health plans to the point that workers and employers are forced to abandon them.

Posted 368 days ago.

Valveguy

Reported in Todays news:

Smokers – and chewers – in some states may have to pay as much as 50% more in premiums than non-smokers if they sign up for insurance through state health exchanges that open next month, according to provisions in the Affordable Care Act.

Posted 368 days ago.

scrappile

Sometimes you need a link to back your point, I, really try not to do this, and try to keep it at a minimum.....

Posted 370 days ago.

scrappile

****globalpost**** › Home › Regions › Americas › Costa Rica Oct 3, 2012 - Obamacare: Will more Americans go abroad for treatment? ... American country's private hospitals, triggered by health care reform in the United States ... or alternative therapies such as stem cell treatment unavailable at home ...only those that can afford it.....

Posted 370 days ago.

BeRight

If you like your insurance you can keep it…………………………………….International Business Machines Corp. IBM, faced with rising health care costs for retirees, says it will move them to a health exchanges where they may have cheaper plan options.

IBM spokesman: IBM didn’t make this change to save money -- it does not reduce our costs,”

Posted 370 days ago.

Valveguy

So your saying in Canada, the rich get the best care by going outside Canada while the rest of the common folk are left with the Gov't run stuff? Boy or boy, sounds like something I don't want a part of. Is this where we are heading with Obamacare? They Dems never told us that.

Posted 370 days ago.

scrappile

When you bring Canada's healthcare into the debate, remember that the global recession affected their economy far less than it did the U.S, many factors contributed to this but single payer , works for their middle and lower income families, freeing up money, to keep their economy going, plus they do a lot more preventative healthcare, keeping citizens healthier in the first place, the myth of people going to other countries for treatments, is just that, only the upper crust, who can go to other places go, and they often go to european nations or even India, not the U.S.....

Posted 371 days ago.

Valveguy

The people who think it is free were listening to the left wing talking heads. It’s probably because the left wing media kept bringing up health care in the Canada and the U.K.,in the health care debate. Those are actually is free at the point of service bit are plagued with many issues including long waits for specialty procedures. In reality, Obamacare, as we call it, is nothing like those systems and is a train wreck.

Posted 372 days ago.

BeRight

No one said it was free but people, you know, the ones who can't figure out how to get a picture ID, think it is.

There was an article in the Times a year or so ago interviewing a Washington County resident who, along with all the middle class friends, thought it was also free.

The problem is that a particular problem you present affects less than 1% of the population. We could have fixed the problems without screwing everything up.

The old saying of “we need to cut off the head to save the body” ………….that is Obmamacare.

Posted 374 days ago.

scrappile

Nobody said Obamacare was free, yet a single person making 29,000, could afford healthcare, but what isa six month old who has reached half of her lifetime cap, supposed to do, just looking for honest answers, single payer was the option, but with insurance companies in the campaign pockets of elected reps, that's not going to happen.....bill's plan would be nice too, 75% subsidized by taxpayers, again honest answers..?..

Posted 375 days ago.

thegreek

And that is only part of the 1005 page documant that those idiots passed as law!! And some people are happy with it. Those that voted FOR it should be tarred and feathered like in the old days.

Posted 375 days ago.

Kunectdots

Take your mind off ObamaCare and join us in a useless, possibly criminal, initiative to bomb Syria! "If you like your doctor..." YEAH! YEAH! YEAH!

Reminds me of something else our illustrious leader said. That being, "Tell Vladimir, This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."

Posted 375 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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