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2 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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luvthesouth

asknot...i will say this about medications...if we provide public monies for the R&D that results in an effective medication, we should get pricing that reflects our contribution. the Wal-Mart model is low prices guaranteed. just as we have folks not taking jobs due to low wages, what shall we expect from our doctors due to the inability to set their prices? btw, i have found that many doctors will work with a patient regarding many costs. the hospitals seem to be the fly in the ointment. but they have their own set of issues to deal with. dang it i am missing my show!

Posted 393 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, before i go to check out a show i enjoy, i wanted to say thanks for posting the information. it was helpful and interesting. in the end...it still sounds like we are trying to get something on the cheap and we slam so many others for doing the same thing. have a great evening.

Posted 393 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, when we create our Wal-Mart healthcare system, will people start clamoring for its demise as they do now?

Posted 393 days ago.

luvthesouth

treated. they seem to be either in denial or had rather gamble until it becomes catastrophic..then bam....they skeedaddle themselves to the emergency room and away we go. the ACA is rotten and will become another ineffective government-run money pit. i wonder how any medical malfeasance on the part of overseas treatment will be handled?

Posted 393 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, i read the article with interest. it did open up with the line many more are going overseas or contemplating. there is a distinct different between thinkin' and doin'. anyway, i see your point. so when will the taxpayers be ponying up the airfare to cart all of the poor overseas...is that the next great saving grace for our healthcare system? could be by the articles appeal. in my post i merely intended to point out various reasons why many do not utilize the well educated and staffed facilities here in the good ol' United States. i did not even get into the reasons for that high costs associated with out fine doctors and hospitals as well as to the insurance companies. while many scream about how much is paid to whom or how much is spent in advertising, there is very little mention of the costs of litigation, settlements, and malpractice insurance that is being gobbled up by healthcare dollars. i talk to so many people that have obvious health issues and yet never get them tr

Posted 393 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, it was fine and dandy for those that chose to afford health insurance rather than squander their money on sundry items that pass with each fad. i and many others did not have problem with our insurance as well as our doctors. i would suggest that in the majority of cases, it is not the healthcare system that is broken but it is the american people that are broken. drug addicts, the homeless, those that suffer from latrophobia, smokers, the morbidly obese, abusers and the abused are many groups of people that do not always fully utilize the healthcare system. i would say that if our healthcare system was so broken, which it was not, why in the world would are we not be flocking to others countries for our medical needs???? could we simply be suffering from lethargy? yes ....i think we are.

Posted 393 days ago.

BeRight

It is hysterical that the Whitehouse has threatened to veto a House Bill that simply keeps the President’s promise of “if you like you policy you can keep it. Period”

Posted 397 days ago.

enrollinobamacare

Do You Know the Minimum Benefits and features in Obamacare? .

There is a long lost of benefits called the " Essential Minimum Benefits". These benefits are standard in ALL plans on the exchange. You also CANNOT be denied coverage regardless if you have a shoebox full of pills.

The plans will Vary from state to state but in general you cannot get a better deal by going direct to healthcare.gov. all plans are price fixed. With using a brokerage you will have some customer service available if you need anything in the future.

Posted 398 days ago.

Kunectdots

I especially like his commentary of, "..people suddenly find themselves worse off because of health care reform."

GOSH MR. PRESIDENT! You mean like the millions that are going to be paying far more "because of (YOUR) health care reform?

h ttp://w ww.youtube.c om/watch?v=_u6cKd3WCIU

Posted 402 days ago.

Kunectdots

Obama declares desire in creating "Single Payer" health care system. WELCOME TO EUROPE!

"Obama on single payer health insurance"

*******ww w.youtube.co m/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

Posted 402 days ago.

Kunectdots

Obama argued that his plan "ISN'T A TAX". Chief Justice John Roberts legitimized it by claiming IT IS a tax.

"Obama Goes Toe-To-Toe With Stephanopoulos On "Tax Increases"

***********youtube****/watch?v=rL7ak__MGyw

Posted 402 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot can you honestly say that their conditions would change whether we bought their products or not? while i feel for the people, i look at our country and consider what being able to vote has given us. the chinese have their government telling them what to do and guess what...so do we.

Posted 404 days ago.

luvthesouth

over san diego and los angeles just last week.

Posted 404 days ago.

luvthesouth

but the sky is falling....did you not see the most recent fireballs?????

Posted 404 days ago.

luvthesouth

i won't mention how the green incentives was money flushed down the tubes...well maybe not down the tubes but in barry's buddies pockets.

Posted 404 days ago.

luvthesouth

very toxic environment for our economy. we can no longer exist on our own debt laden products. as an example, there are groups of products or commodities if you will that is distributed by my corporation that is imported from India and Pakistan. i have personally contacted a local manufacturer for one of these and discussed how i would like for us to distribute their product. i explained we were local and were able pick the product up with little effort on their part. i explained our market as well as the price points we could live with and what our clients expected and were used to. in the end we can have the product imported with all shipping for 40% less than what they wanted to charge. i am well aware of wal-marts habit of beating down the vendors. but i also understand why they do it. as much as they hurt the local vendors, if the local vendors could offer the savings then they would not be concerned with wal-mart. we keep wal-mart alive because they do what they do best. besides

Posted 404 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, in case you have not noticed we are now a big economic global village. well before wal-mart our government hand-in-hand with business leaders began the destruction of our economy and place in the world as a great producer. there are several ways in which to lift up thrid world countries that we have been made to feel guilty about due to their lack of resources, shoddy leadership and general state of humanity. you can either give them the money and resources straight out which we have done through grants, gifts and loooooooow cost loans, or we can build up thir trade by allowing them to produce the goods that we used to make. either way you can't argue that for the past 30-40 years american exceptionalism and pride has been on the decline or have i been the only one listening and paying attention? when you couple our monetary policies along with global monetary policies, we end up being our own worst enemy. inflation, currency stagnation and currency manipulation have created a

Posted 404 days ago.

luvthesouth

sorry for the many typos in my main post. thats what i get for trying to think and type on the fly. i admit i am still too absent-minded to use spell-check.

Posted 404 days ago.

luvthesouth

* G.E.

Posted 404 days ago.

luvthesouth

i think it has been proven that mandated pay scales may work well in government classified positions where the government can unilaterally increase its revenue by taxation or borrowing whether directly or indirectly. private businesses as you know do not have the same ability. our governemnt through its monetary policies could reduce inflation to the point where all americans could rise above the inlated poverty level. there iare a few things needed that you can't currently legislate and that is motivation, initiative, and personal responsibility. even with the ACA which was sold as a means of having all pay for health insurance, we see that those that draw assistance now will still get free health care. that kind of defeats the purpose, don't you think? also, we are still going to pay those that we pay for now. it's just a realignment of the revenue stream. different day...same B.S.

Posted 404 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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