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283 days ago.
by asknot
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When should a person be punished for stating an opinion?

As many people might know, 'Duck Dynasty' star Phil Robertson gave an interview to GQ Magazine and gave his colorful opinion on different social topics. The response from various groups made A&E pull him from the show. So the discussion is, if someone is asked for their opinion and gives it willingly, should they be punished afterward?

 
 

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thegreek

Asknot. Let me get this straight. You quit going to a Christian College because the age of the earth tripped you up, and because there was a difference in science and the Written Word and none of the scholars could explain it to you satisfactorily.!!!??? So you trashed your entire concept of what you believe in and now you use that as the "reason" why Jesus cannot exist and there is no God and the Bible is wrong ??? And you want me to correct what scholars cannot, in your mind. OK here is my answer. I trust the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost account and if you had a lick of sense, you would too. Satan sure didnt have to spend much time wrangling you away from the Lord did he?

Posted 306 days ago.

stickhauler

asknot, were you there? I wasn't either. The fact remains, his statement was based on his perception as a child. When you were a child, did you recognize all the wrongs of the world, or did your parents shield you from the starker realities of the world like mine did?

Given the much lower numbers of minorities around the Mid-Ohio Valley back when I was growing up, why wasn't there even more discrimination there? Or are you claiming the residents there were so much more into diversity in the 50's & 60's?

You talk like hanging folks was an everyday occurrence in every community in the South in those days. It wasn't. And, since neither of us experienced Robertson's life as a child, your claims are based more on an opinion that he's lying about how he saw things back then, than any fact.

Posted 306 days ago.

stickhauler

asknot, that's where you are totally wrong! Poor whites were treated just as poorly in those days, read a little history before you slam people. Still to these days, poor whites are looked down upon, while discrimination against Blacks is illegal.

Posted 306 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot...perhaps thegreek deserves the chance to research the subject take your challenge if they desire...if his effort does not suffice then i will be willing to give you my thoughts. although i think you can find the answer if you truely desired.

Posted 306 days ago.

luvthesouth

moderation...i guess you missed the part where i agreed with you. in case you were wondering christians still make mistakes and some even on purpose.

Posted 306 days ago.

moderation

claim of associated character defects

Posted 306 days ago.

moderation

"one could argue that..........,"mas malarkey. phil's 'character' is a hippocrite. His character is supposed to portray his (phil's)'godly way'. this is about saint phil, simply, not someone's mother cast as whatever, or Barry or the silent 'minority'.

Posted 306 days ago.

moderation

good early a m ,lts - in the words of old joe,"malarkey". be they commonly held views among the "less vocal of our society" or not,they are bigoted,and the accuracy of their associated character defects lacks proof.

Posted 306 days ago.

thegreek

I would say Phils travels as a kid were where his 2 feet could take him. Probably a mile or so from where he lived. It is not like he was jetsetting all over Louisiana seeing the country and many people and making his statement today. His world was a very small world because he was poor. Creeks, ponds, hunting in the woods in his spare time when he wasnt helping the family survive. Is that so hard to fathom?

Posted 307 days ago.

stickhauler

For God's sake, Robertson's comments about Blacks during the "Jim Crow" law era was based on his perceptions as a young child. A young child just as disadvantaged as the Blacks he was working along side of. A poor, young white kid, working just as hard labor as the Black field hands. And given the same respect from the landowners as they gave the Black field hands.

Seems to me some folks are still trying to paint his words to mean what they want rather than what was said.

Posted 307 days ago.

thegreek

I am sure in my mind that Phil was a poor boy that didnt travel much as a kid either. I think it even explains that in their books. So he probably didnt see much racism where he was at. They were just all trying to survive.

Posted 307 days ago.

thegreek

Most people didnt travel much as a kid in the 50's and 60's. I know I sure didnt. I have heard and can remember some gas station that weren't open on Sundays back then. I had never even knew black kids existed until 1st grade when there were a set of twin boys we met We are all friends and neighbors now.

Posted 307 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobDahler, i'll assume that you are doing well and appreciate your riddling response. you do seem require a bit more thinking of a chap when conversing. this subject is interesting in that i recently came across a family obitiuary from 1939 in which many of you might find interesting. at least i did. it said quite a bit about race relations during that time period. it actually validates phils description of black farm hands and black folk in general. although you won't read any of this in most history books as it does not fir the narrative that is being promoted. i work off of the belief that if you take any two different race people and drop them into a situation together, they will come together to solve problems quicker than two lonely teenagers on prom night.

Posted 307 days ago.

luvthesouth

the recently discovered tribesmen in south america, we may very well look at them with disdain, but to them it is normal. we just have a different normal. it doesn't lessen one to have the freedom to the normal they choose...should it? we fortunately or unfortunately have the ability to have a say in our everyday normal lives and there are just as many viewpoints as there are americans. the universal glow of harmony does not exist as we are all not the same and hopefully never will be....at least on this earth.

Posted 307 days ago.

luvthesouth

good afternoon moderation, perhaps you

missed where i stated that he did not

represent a good role model in that

episode. however, using your notion "cast

in a role", one could argue that he was

simply playing a character in much the

same way as a proper lady may play an

improper lady due to the requirement of

the theatrical rquirement. could the

children assume that their mother was an

improper lady...sure but...as an actor

one must be ready to play the most vile

of characters if need be. would you say

barry is playing himself or a role at the

moment. i contend that we are seeing the

barry many have come to deplore due to

his ineptitude and lying. what is it they

say..."we are all actors and the world is

just a stage". frankly i found nothing bigoted about his opinion. he stated what it was like in his world and his experience. i am certain that others may convey a different experience...but that was his. think of

Posted 307 days ago.

moderation

good afternoon,lts- was phil cast in a role of an 'under the cover of darkness thief and trespasser(in addition to encouraging his children to share this corrupt behavior),or not? Barry hasn't had a cameo,... leave him out of it.I had this opinion long before Phil's bigoted spew.

Posted 307 days ago.

BeRight

It was Willie's country club.

Posted 307 days ago.

BobDahler

luvthesouth, I have no evidence. In the context of my remark, that would be exactly the point.

Posted 307 days ago.

BobDahler

Ok, I'll bite... (again)

I attended Louisiana Tech in the early '70s, near the end of the Robertson/Bradshaw regime. As I recall, aside from their skill as football players, no one had anything much good to say about either one of them.

Robertson was still hanging around the campus off and on, essentially unemployed- I assume to bask in what reputation he had that remained. Ex-BMOC and all. Bradshaw had just left for the Big-Time. I think there was a little more politics involved in Phil's de-throning than his professed desire to go duck hunting.

Anyway, we were all just young, dumb kids looking for the next party... Not much of a foundation for others to base their moral compass upon.

Posted 307 days ago.

luvthesouth

moderation...btw...i agree that phil did not exhibit his best message with that episode. perhaps our search for the perfect being should lead us somewhere else.

Posted 307 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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