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254 days ago.
by asknot
Kunectdots
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Legalize Marijuana in Ohio?

In light of some recent and not so recent events, do you believe that marijuana SHOULD become a legal substance in the state of Ohio? I'm posting this under "National Politics" because I believe your answer transcends Ohio's borders.

 
 

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Kunectdots

stick - With BAC levels being that low for commercial drivers, I imagine you guys/gals are apprehensive about consuming orange juice that has a little 'age on it'. LOL Well, whatever.

I am one the appreciates all that you, your Brethren and Sisters do to keep this country truckin along and I try to cut you the slack that I can when I share the road with you. Too many of our fellow citizens give little thought as to where we'd be without you.

Posted 304 days ago.

stickhauler

Yes, I'd advocate for a zero tolerance of any level of impairment in order to drive. Speaking of a "double-standard", the BAC level is set at .04 for Commercial drivers, regardless of whether we're in our truck, or our private auto. And, if we're found to be impaired at any level above 0.00, we're facing a license suspension of 6 months, automatically. If we refuse testing, we're facing a 6 month suspension. Suffice it to say, the only time I imbibe is in the safety of my home, when I know I'm not going anywhere.

Posted 304 days ago.

stickhauler

No, drug and alcohol testing, as well as a Nationwide Commercial Drivers Database are both Federal requirements. An added restriction is that drivers are required to have a valid DOT physical exam, and now have your exams registered with the state your license is issued in, for your license to remain valid.

They've also changed the usual time period your current exam remains valid (2 years), to an annual exam to qualify if you are now, or ever have been treated for diabetes, high blood pressure, and a few other diseases generally seen in society. I didn't even know I had diabetes until I went in to re-certify for the year (I had already been prescribed blood pressure medication). And, I remained intelligible to drive until I got my blood sugar count below 200, and was seen by a doctor and got prescriptions to treat it.

Posted 305 days ago.

moderation

Stick - doesn't it have a lot to do with a company's bonding requirements?

Posted 305 days ago.

stickhauler

Cont. The fact remains, the auto driver beside me that's driving intoxicated (by whatever substance) can easily cause the accident I'm involved in. Conversely, since safety officials have decided that even use of marijuana in a period of time prior to working/driving, affects the subject's judgement, the dude next to me who "toked up" a week ago could just as easily misjudge, and cause the accident I end up being involved in.

I'm just advocating fair and equal treatment of all, if one segment of society is required to prove they're drug and alcohol free to enjoy the "privilege" of driving, all drivers should also be required to do the same.

Posted 305 days ago.

stickhauler

My point is, much of America's industry require employees to undergo pre-employment drug testing, the require "just cause" testing if they suspect an employee is using drugs, and they'll refuse to cover an employee under their Worker's Comp plan if the employees fails a post accident drug test. Even they fear a residual amount of THC in the bloodstream could affect their employee's judgement.

Meanwhile, all proponents argue that marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol, claiming research that defends their point of view is the only accurate evidence. So, are all these companies doing drug testing simply to mess with their employees? Or, is research that says residual amounts of THC in the bloodstream accurate?

I don't see companies paying the added cost of drug testing just an arbitrary decision. So, if driving is a privilege, why just one segment of the motoring public? I'm well aware driving a loaded semi requires lots of extra awareness. But, the fact remains, the into

Posted 305 days ago.

stickhauler

asknot, how would my getting high on Friday night, and driving on Sunday afternoon be different from any other vehicle driver doing the same? It wouldn't. If having THC in my system that long after smoking it would affect my judgement while driving, it would do the same with any driver.

The difference is, you, and the vast majority of auto drivers would argue that your constitutional rights would be violated if drug testing was implemented to retain the privilege of driving. But, you'd defend testing of truckers.

Posted 305 days ago.

Kunectdots

Asknot - Well, knowing the town, maybe a few of them made it back to the streets. Policeman's children and spouses have to have something to smoke out of too.

Posted 306 days ago.

Kunectdots

lts - I'm just posting this as a lark but I used to attend city council meetings and occasionally sit in on Mayor's Court proceedings for insight into the functioning of my community.

One young man was hauled into Mayor's Court because of drifting over the white line a few times one evening. A search of his vehicle revealed 27 various types of marijuana smoking devices (pipes) at different locations throughout his vehicle. His defense was, he was helping his buddy move his stuff from his college dorm, sometime earlier, and all of them "must have been his". You might understand the Mayor not believing him, but cited him as if he'd been caught with only one...with a smile.

I hope that young man went on to become a ranking member of the ACLU. LOL

Posted 306 days ago.

stickhauler

asknot, Yes, I realize a fully loaded semi takes a long distance to stop. Do most car drivers know that? Based on some downright ignorant actions I see them do daily, they must not.

Studies of fatal truck/car accidents show that in near 80% of the cases, the car driver was the "at fault" driver.

So, you're really going to suggest that, since truckers are seen as professionals, that our skill is supposed to compensate for idiotic acts by other drivers? If so, I deserve a lot more money! Bottom line, a auto driver that makes a poor choice quite often leaves a trucker with 2 choices

1. "Drill them!

or

2. Run off the road to avoid hitting them, and quite likely kill the auto's occupants. God help the trucker if he hits anything of value, because then, the car driver's actions end up getting the trucker a ticket for failure to control.

Posted 306 days ago.

Caspiansynn

Sorry , your friends kid needed a better lawyer. I not sure why the whole sentence didn't post.

Posted 306 days ago.

Caspiansynn

asknot, needed a better lawyer, marijuana paraphernalia isn't illegal in Ohio, that law was changed in Sept. 2013. Please look up Ohio revised code 2925.14 pay close attention to Division(D) section(2)

Posted 306 days ago.

luvthesouth

Kunectdots, i have no doubt that what you say is true. i would not want to be stopped in a small town myself for anything. however, according to several defense lawyer websites, possession of up to 100 grams nets a ticket and a fine. which is pretty good if you are going to run the risk of having it in your vehicle. feel free to check them out...the websites that is.

Posted 306 days ago.

luvthesouth

scrappile, the rolling papers are intended for use with tobacco. just like those roses in the thin glass tubes where the glass tubes are just for holding the rose.

Posted 306 days ago.

scrappile

If the state collects taxes on rolling papers,how can it then be paraphanalia, seems they want it both ways, and the,intent of use is a bad argument, once those taxes are collected.

Posted 306 days ago.

Kunectdots

lts - If you really believe "that most law enforcement officers do not take the time to do more than write a ticket or even ignore simple possession unless there are outstanding warrants or other violations at the time of the stop." - you need to read the "Police Record" of our local papers.

A burned out license plate light is used to pull them over and then BAM! "a controlled substance and paraphernalia (pipes and papers) were found". RATCHET UP THE CHARGES, KID!

Posted 306 days ago.

moderation

lts- the toxic effects don't linger for days and weeks.

Posted 306 days ago.

luvthesouth

how have you been "bobbarker"? you are correct but i think they have some of the best coffee around. we used to have a Seattles Best in town. they were pretty good and reasonable. they used to have a local bakery supply the coffeecakes and pastries.

Posted 306 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot...although we have a ton of them...we usually just grab several bags of whole beans when we stop in for a cup of coffee. i pulled up Stoked website...looks and sounds wonderful. they also just hired Anne for a Barista position. i hope they both (Stoked & Anne) do well.

Posted 306 days ago.

luvthesouth

O.K. thats enough from me about this subject..sorry...i will just ponder to myself about the addictive qualities of Starbucks Sumatra coffee.

Posted 306 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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