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6 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
Kendall78
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Is the GOP "out of touch" with women?

A recent CNN poll has 55% of Americans saying that the GOP doesn't understand women. Is it true that the GOP, and by extension Right-leaning Conservatives, really out of touch or is it just a perceived truth without merit? Is the GOP allowing the Liberals/Dems/Left to define to the public what they stand for?

 
 

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whatdifferencedoesitmake

Slick Willie "D" Clinton was a General in the Democratz war on women. Anthony Weiner? A Captain of his little dinghy. Elliot Spitzer? Staff Sergeant. Keep them pregnant by illegitimate sperm donors, and cranking out more welfare dependent Democrat voters is the Democrat war on women. Lower the education standards so they don't even realize how ignorant they are. Poverty is the Democrat slave quarters, and they D know how to keep them there. A Conservative Libertarian R tide will lift all boats, men and women, beginning when the new Senate is sworn in next January.

Posted 289 days ago.

thegreek

Equal rights for women means to me, running the same obstacle course as men for the Highway patrol academy and boot camp. Not a shortcut version so they can drive the patrol car.

Posted 289 days ago.

Kendall78

" I am just saying this is ONE area that the law is very biased."

Very much so and that is mostly thanks to our patriarchal dominated culture trying to shift into something more equal.

Eventually I think we will get to the point where a woman will have sole say what happens to her body and the results of her choices...like having a child.

And at the same time, the father will be able to choose to assit in raising his progeny or not if he desires.

It wouldn't surprise me if sometime in the future that when one gets married that there isn't a sort of children pre-nup in that before a couple gets married they decide what will happen if the wife gets pregnant.

Posted 289 days ago.

Kendall78

"I hold them BOTH equally responsible"

While they both are equal in the act, the result is not equal though. If the father wants to end the life of the fetus, they would have to do a physical act against the woman that would be against her will. That would not do.

If a woman makes the choice, she is taking the physical risks willingly. There isn't only one result in the "act" they performed but two.

One is that the woman is now going through a physical change and the other is that she will eventually give birth to a child. They are not exclusivelt the same thing.

A woman is a sentient being and her physical rights overide the desire of the man. If the man is wanting her to get an abortion and she doesn't want to...sorry guy but it ***** to be you.

Posted 289 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired said, "its a MANS business when the law will force him to pay for 18 years.."

Actually, I've known women to pay child support, so it's not all on the men. Mostly it is of course but the law is finally trying to level off.

Posted 289 days ago.

NasCarNut

the CHOICE was made when they engaged in the ACTIVITY

Agreed, so if the woman isn't using BC why doesn't the man offer to use some??...why leave it up to Just the woman??...

Posted 289 days ago.

NasCarNut

its a MANS business when the law will force him to pay for 18 years if it lives but says he has no say in it.

The man had his say when he slept with the woman Without protection...why is it just the womans responsibility for birth control??... protection...

Posted 289 days ago.

Kendall78

@Ask- what do you think if Congress was 70% women and was voting on a vasectomy bill, how would the average male citizen react? Would they be screaming it's none of Congress's business? I think so.

Posted 289 days ago.

Kendall78

A little clarification on my part, I do not consider all Republicans as GOP. When I say GOP, I am referring to the active politicans of the party and not the everyday voter. I think most run of a mill Republican tend to be more liberal on women issues than the politicians that get voted into office.

Posted 289 days ago.

Kendall78

If the GOP would grab ahold of those talking points and never mention abortion again for a decade it would serve them a whole lot better.

Even when the GOP is making good points on the abortions topic, it will just come out wrong in the media. The fact that they cannot see this is one of the signs that they just don't get it.

Posted 289 days ago.

NasCarNut

 The vast majority of the conversation is about their reproductive rights and nothing else.

Well what do you expect, a group of men thinking with the wrong head again...it's true, boys never grow up!!...Yes the GOP is out of touch on just about everything and not only with women...

Posted 289 days ago.

Kendall78

"this could delve into equal pay, glass ceilings, and military sexual abuse and women's limitations in combat."

This I agree with but if you would go through the many pages on this topic, those points you bring up are seldom talked about.

I'll admit the 30/70 was a bit on the fly but I figure that the female/male ratio in Congress is somewhere around that.

And you are correct that a vasectomy and an abortion are nto quite the same. A vasectomy can be reversed in many cases where dead is just dead.

Posted 289 days ago.

thegreek

Wow asknot. So you are saying that everything that could be invented, has been invented. I know about those you ridiculously pointed out.. You should really tell someone that they don't need to try and invent anything else because YOU have DECLARED it already exists. You are really an Einstein. What knowing all there is to know about Gay rights and minorities like you do. Good grief you are a doosie of a know it all.!!

Posted 289 days ago.

Kendall78

Doing a quick skim of all the responses, I would have to say that yes...the GOP is out of touch. The reason? The vast majority of the conversation is about their reproductive rights and nothing else.

Are the concerns of the women's voters nothing more than that to the GOP?

And a theoretical question on the topic of reproductive rights, if a bill was introduced to have all men get a vasectomy when they reach 18....but only 30% of men were allowed to vote compared to 70% of women...would that be fair? Should a woman even have the right to make that kind of choice?

Posted 289 days ago.

BobDahler

You deserve the grief you get.

Posted 289 days ago.

BobDahler

OK, Junior, I see where you're coming from.

Posted 289 days ago.

BobDahler

asknot: I don't know what you'r problem with me is, perhaps I have offended you in the past, and if so, I'm sorry.

I urge you to relent on the hostility. If not, so be it... I can deal with you like any other cracker here.

Posted 289 days ago.

BobDahler

You HAVE made a fool of yourself...

Posted 290 days ago.

BobDahler

Be careful how you quote, you may make a fool of yourself.

Posted 290 days ago.

BobDahler

Irrespective of our snit, I must call it quits for the night. Hope to see you later.

Stay strong...

Posted 290 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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