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11 minutes ago.
by slinky
Caspiansynn
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Winds of revolution?

Has anyone else noticed that not only the rhetoric but general conversation has changed for the worse since the Newtown shooting? There have always been some crazy ideas coming from the extreme left and right but lately I've noticed that insanity seems to be infecting average citizens as well. People every where are talking rebellion, in bars, restaurants, shoping centers, online news sites, chat rooms, fitness clubs, the list could go on forever. From my observations it appears that the people are angry about health care, taxes, the economy, but mostly its gun rights and all the talk of restrictions and confiscation by the elected officals. Could an attack on the second amendment be the catalist that could launch this great nation into an armed rebellion?

 
 

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I will test my knowledge against yours most anytime chuckles ! I was reloading shotgun shells when I was 8 !And youre the one who said I was an "anti" which I am not ! I own weapons and have shot just about everything up to a Fifty cal !

Posted 1 day ago.

Caspiansynn

Well stated Coal, it is nice to know not everyone is misinformed. The other part to that equation is the lower recoil factor, recoil on a 30 cal can be intimidating to the novice shooter .

Posted 1 day ago.

Coaluser

Part of the reason why the military went to the smaller 5.56 round is 1, easier to hump. Can hump more rounds. 2, the theory of war is not to instantly kill but to maim and disable. This is so if one person gets hit, it slows the unit down because at least one more person or buddy will have to tend to him, get hit medical help or cart him off to safety.

Posted 1 day ago.

Caspiansynn

I do find it odd that such a week round scares you so much though, I have always considered it a varmit round and to small for much else.

Posted 1 day ago.

Caspiansynn

You would be assuming wrong, I am pro firearms in just about every aspect. Although I have been hand loading for around 25 years now I have never claimed to be an expert but I do know a little more about firearms than the average person and obviously a lot more than you do little buddy.

Posted 1 day ago.

And most of this info is stuff I already know , you on the other hand seem to be learning as we go along !

Posted 1 day ago.

Ok so I'd say its fair to say you come down on the anti-5.56 side of the fence . There is information that goes both ways but from what I've seen and read I dont want to be shot by one !

Posted 1 day ago.

Future Military Weapon Technology - Future Firepower..... it was right at the start of the post !

Posted 1 day ago.

Caspiansynn

I'm sorry slinky I missed your comment about the basketball sized cavities, normally I would not post while I'm working but that is so outrageous that I have to ask, what internet site did you get that huge piece of misinformation from?

Posted 1 day ago.

And yes I already knew about hollow points which were deemed illegal for warfare years ago ! So this was a way to skirt around that agreement ! But you being an expert should know that !Seems that youre the one gleaning info from google , not me !

Posted 1 day ago.

Nope not a whole lotta searching , just confirming what I already knew and giving you something to look up ! The design for the bullet was to yaw on contact and like I said the russians thought so much of it that they designed their 5.45 to do the same !

Posted 1 day ago.

Caspiansynn

I would explain the real reason the the military went with the 5.56 round and abandoned the 30 cal but I will leave it to you to search for, maybe we can improve your education again today.

Posted 1 day ago.

Caspiansynn

Now compare the ballistics of the 7.62 nato that was used in Korea or the 30-06 that was used in WW2 and you will find that the 5.56 is a very under powered round. BTW , Hollow core and Hollow pint bullets are for expansion not yaw, expansion is wanted and yaw is not.

Posted 1 day ago.

Caspiansynn

All the way to the bank little buddy, all the way to the bank. At least one good thing is happening here, in your frantic googleing to try to prove your self right you are starting to learn some things.

Posted 1 day ago.

So still laughing there funny boy ?

Posted 2 days ago.

Wiki.... The 5.56×45mm NATO SS109/M855 cartridge (NATO: SS109; U.S.: M855) with standard 62 gr. lead core bullets with steel penetrator will penetrate approximately 38 to 51 cm (15 to 20 in) into soft tissue in ideal circumstances. As with all spitzer shaped projectiles it is prone to yaw in soft tissue. However, at impact velocities above roughly 762 m/s (2,500 ft/s), it may yaw and then fragment at the cannelure (the crimping groove around the cylinder of the bullet, These fragments can disperse through flesh and bone, inflicting additional internal injuries.

Posted 2 days ago.

The russians thought so much of the idea they designed their 5.45 round with a air cavity in the tip so it would yaw on contact ! Theres what your military assault weapons do !

Posted 2 days ago.

You just made my point ! 5.56 military ammo is a hotter round and can cause problems if shot in a rifle not equiped for the higher pressures ! There in lay the difference ! Like I said , no civilian needs a military assault weapon !

Posted 2 days ago.

Future Military Weapon Technology - Future Firepower.....When a human body is hit with a 5.56mm 62-grain bullet traveling at 3,100 feet per second; essentially the same thing happens but much, much more violently. For a split second, the cavity created inside the human body by the round from an M-16/M-4 is about the size of a basketball (if hit dead center of mass). The 5.56 creates this massive cavitation by tumbling through the body initiated by inherently unstable flight.

Posted 2 days ago.

Caspiansynn

Actually Mod it is the 5.56x45 mil. spec. that is the military round. The 223 rem was developed alongside the 5.56 as a civilian round right from the start, they are sisters but not twins.

Posted 2 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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