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11 days ago.
by slinky
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Obamacare is not "FREE" health care

People have finally realized that the word “free” is nowhere to be found in Obamacare’s “ Affordable Health Care Act”. Coverage under President Barack Obama's health care law won't be cheap. A study released Thursday by the nonprofit Kaiser Family Foundation found that government tax credits would lower the sticker price on a benchmark "silver" policy to a little over $190 a month for single people making about $29,000, regardless of their age. For uninsured people who are paying nothing today, this is still a big cost that they're expected to fit into their budgets.

 
 

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Kendall78

In all that bluster you never say why Socialism is evil. You incorrectly call it theft when it is not. You will not find any legitimate definition of Socialism that includes theft except from those that do not understand it.

There are no good or evil forms of govt, only how we humans use them to govern ourselves.

Of course there are some forms of govt that works better with human nature. Wisely, our nation has incorporated aspects of democracy, republicanism and even socialism to make us a great nation. I am sorry you do not see that Tired. I pity you.

Posted 881 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired, you are ignorant because I have a "decent job" and pay my taxes.

You are a twit because I am one of those that served my country. You can save your drama for someone who cares.

Posted 881 days ago.

Kendall78

Wow Tired, you are a pompous, ignorant little twit aren't you?

"You are far to young and inexperienced to understand that."

I lived when the USSR was still in existence. I studied the origins of Socialism, Republicanism and other forms of govt. This is why you are pompous to assume otherwise.

Posted 881 days ago.

Bigfoot

But hey. Karma right?

Tiredofit? What would you call coming into a foreign land and taking said land from the people living on it?

That was theft wasn't it?

This country was born out of an act of theft.

From whence you came so thou shalt return!

Posted 881 days ago.

Bigfoot

It sure is a lot worse than saying socialism isn't evil. Completely ignoring that we are allied with countries that are socialistic in nature.

Correction.

Posted 881 days ago.

Bigfoot

Tell me something. Those who fought for this country? Those who fought and died for the freedom we enjoy? You say that Kendall sullies their sacrifice?

What about those who wish to limit the freedom in this country that others are trying to attain for themselves?

There's a whole bunch of people in this country who act as if this country is theirs and theirs alone...everyone else unlike them is an imposter...even though most of them were born and raised American citizens.

Just for being different. Have no religion? Oh! You're evil! Love someone of the same sex? You're plotting to destroy this country...and you're evil.

Can you guess which voting block those limiters of freedom come from?

If that aint taking a huge dump on the sacrifices those who fought and died for ALL OF US...then I don't know what is.

It sure is a lot worse than calling socialism evil. Completely ignoring that we are allied with countries that are socialistic in nature.

Posted 881 days ago.

Kendall78

Which came first? The dependents or the dependency?

What should have the govt done back during the Great Depression? Let those that couldn't survive die off? Or perhaps instead of a little controlled socialism, perhaps a little anarchy would have been better for those who had no where to go?

There is nothing evil in socialism, no more than there is righteous in republicanism.

Posted 881 days ago.

Kendall78

I don't know about that, some socialistic type programs got started quickly and we wouldn't know what to do without them today.

Posted 884 days ago.

MVandelay

There is just so much negative buzz about Obamacare, it's hard to find the positive stories. Here is a happy look at how the ACA is affecting REAL people who REALLY need it: ***********uwmedicinepulse****/the-affordable-care-act/. Nothing ever comes easily- just give it some time!

Posted 884 days ago.

Kendall78

Yeah, from what it sounds like...they won't be getting close to those numbers anytime soon. Not unless the penalties start encouraging more uninsured people to join.

Posted 884 days ago.

luvthesouth

Kendall78, if the question you posted was not person sensitive then i would like to post what i found...all subject to correction of course. the KFF report found that 40% of the 18-34 age group and 37% of the 35-54 age group would need to participate according to CBO figures as costs for the A.C.A. Naturally that assumes that the other age groups attain their percentage requirement and all pay their preiums as required. the above information was taken from a Dec. 2013 KFF report.

Posted 884 days ago.

Kendall78

At what percentage must the previously uninsured be for Obamacare to be feasible financially?

I assume the uninsured they are looking for are mostly working class people under the age of 40.

Posted 887 days ago.

luvthesouth

fred...with the march 31st deadline approaching, it would not be surprising to see activity increase at the ACA website. looking without buying is still just looking. i am not certain that your claim of what each of the (questionable) 5 million discovered could be construed as accurate. even Judge Judy does not affirm speculation or hearsay. neither do i. lets chat when they sign-up and pay their premiums....i wonder if they happened to also reasearch the projection of the increase in premiums as a result of marketplace fluctuations and the costs of the A.C.A. requirements themselves.

Posted 889 days ago.

exofDevola

You never discuss anything r1k, never.

Posted 889 days ago.

exofDevola

This is not discussion, it's ridiculous. Why can people get away with mentioning different articles and pass it off as meaningful, it's not. I can quote the cat ad and the hat, cause that what Ted Cruz did , but do I somehow rationalize it has to do with the topic Obama care? It doesn't, you're both right what the diff and ask not Ss dd

Posted 889 days ago.

exofDevola

oMg this forum is a joke, there is no discussion whatsoever, same old crap different day!

Posted 890 days ago.

luvthesouth

BobBarker: you posted..."Another idiotic opinion from another rightwing whacko nutjob." based on a report by "Unite Here": "A national union that represents 300,000 low-wage hospitality workers charges in a new report that Obamacare will slam wages, cut hours, limit access to health insurance and worsen the very “income equality” President Obama says he is campaigning to fix. “Only in Washington could asking the bottom of the middle class to finance health care for the poorest families be seen as reducing inequality,” said the report from Unite Here. “Without smart fixes, the ACA threatens the middle class with higher premiums, loss of hours, and a shift to part-time work and less comprehensive coverage,” said the report, titled, “The Irony of Obamacare: Making Inequality Worse.” your own personal prejudice and whacko is shining through.

Posted 890 days ago.

luvthesouth

them the full credit they deserve and stop blaming the wrong party. maybe you should be in conversation with him on this topic. he seems to have the answer....blame the republicans. there is your solution. you two hash it out for a bit....unless that is your blame game as well.

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

asknot, you and others premiums are predicted to increase even with the law. healthcare costs money. there is no way around that. people risk their homes to foreclosure to purchase many petty things much less for continuing life. if you have dug yourself a large enough hole finacially, then bancruptcy is your saving grace. there is no way individuals as a collective can provide so that no one ever finds themselves in any hardship. even with todays social programs...all i ever hear is it is never enough. insurance provides much toward covering what one otherwise could not. to simply sit back and demand more for less legislatively is the same as enacting law lowering your wage because others may demand more for less from your efforts. everybody wants more...not neccessarily needs more. the problem arises when it comes to who provides the "more". much to the chagrin of BobBarker...the democrats took a full 2+ year hiatis to craft this boondoggle. the least we can do is give the

Posted 893 days ago.

luvthesouth

still do. DNA and hereditary factors can not be legislated away so far....i think that in the end affordability may be the dream but false success for many may be the reality. glass half-full overlooks failure. glass half-empty acknowledges failure. acceptance of there is nothing better is not a good enough reason to champion a law that will not work as how it was sold but just maybe as it was intended. forgot to say good morning...you too fred.

Posted 893 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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